Anybody here shipped a tractor before?

[JINMA224XR]

<font color="blue"> I have friends with pickup trucks but I'd have to find a car hauler to rent. I'll check with U HAUL. Any other ideas who I could rent one from?
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Hey Canoe,

I think that you are making more out of this problem, than it is.

If you have a friend that is dependable, that is very good, but don't be surprised, if they have 101 excuses, when the time comes to actually get the job done.

Just rent a Uhaul Van and a Car Hauler for it, at the same time. Drive that unit and go pick up your new tractor and then take it back to your house. Or if the distance is very far, then get on a plane, to your tractor, and rent the Uhaul and Car Hauler there.

Make an adventure out of it. Have some fun and save a ton of money's doing it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Get your tractors running &
Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[RedDog]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Reddog - very interested in hearing from you to get some idea of what it would cost for LTL and if something like this could be arranged with an LTL company. )</font>


As far as cost, I really do not know. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Your main thing in my opinion would be getting export papers. The seller would have to provide them.

I am positive any of the above companys would transport it, as long as it has the papers. To make it a little cheaper for you would be to have the seller take it to one of the LTL carriers dock and drop it off. They would then drive it into the nose (front) of a trailer and park it. This would be called a headload, and it really shouldn't be move until it reaches its final destination.

Once it reaches Canada you should go to that terminal and pick it up. Reason for that is it would be cheaper for you. They would drive it out of the trailer and down a ramp outside for you to load on your trailer.

All of our terminals have ramps that I know of, and we have terminals in all States and Canada. So I would think one would be fairly close to you.

I think your main problem is going to be the export papers. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif If they are done wrong it will be a while before you would see your tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif


Good luck, RedDog

 

[canoetrpr]

Thanks Reddog. Sounds like dropping it off and picking it up should be easy enough to arrange particularly if I bought used from a dealer in the U.S.

I am told that it is very easy to export a tractor from the U.S. to Canada. As long as it is manufactured in North America there is no duty. A NAFTA certificate of origin is required.

If there is one or more LTL company that you would recommend that has docs in the U.S. and Canada let me know here or send me a P.M.

 

[rozett]

I bought my tractor slightly used from a dealer in Alabama, while I was living in New Hampshire. The dealer contacted their local freight hauler and made all the arrangements. They just removed most of the fuel and loaded it onto a regular trailer. The only arrangements I had to make were for a loading dock at my end. Fortunately, we had an apple grower a mile away that we knew. He had a loading dock at his barn. I didn't even need to be there when the truck came in. The farmer unloaded it an left it out in his yard. Total cost of shipping (4 years ago) was $1000.

 

[TobaccoRoad]

You might want to check with Artrac , they deliver and have good prices on the Kama brand.

 

[LBrown59]

<font color="blue"> a word of caution and without any offence to anyone, going to have to start watching out for the water logged tractor victims of Katrina with their own little problems after being dried out and put up for sale to dump them.
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This is just as bad as flood damaged cars and trucks.

 

[3RRL]

I live in SO. Cal and had a tractor with loader and backhoe plus 3 other implements shipped to me from the dealer who was in Lebanon, Mo. I guess that's about 1500 miles or so. He made all the arrangements and delivered no problem. His delivery guy unloaded everything and I helped. Cost was included in the package but I estimate it to be about $2000 for the load back in August this year.
You're only 700 miles away you say? Should cost you less than half of that to get it to you. Dealer should take care of any paper work crossing the border.

My opinion...you're better off having them deliver to you than taking the time off and renting a trailer to pick it up. You'll be surprised what it costs in gas and rental and your time and hassle to do it. If you are not an experienced heavily loaded trailer driver, you may encounter some problems enroute, or with the load not being as secure or positioned on the trailer correctly. Hence, you assume all the liability FOB their place. With them (the dealer) delivering, it's their responsibilty until it gets to your place. Just something to think about.

 

[nftractor]

I am trying to do the same thing. The best solution for you is to beg/borrow/steal a truck with a hitch and rent a trailer locally and do a round trip (it will save you the one-way charge).

I am only looking to get it to Fort Erie so I have an additional option of getting a 24' Uhaul and returning it to Buffalo.

Where did you find your listings in the US?

 

[canoetrpr]

Thanks to many of the folks that provided advice here.

Thought I'd post a summary of what I've found from my research.

The best shipping deal that I have found is from Best Ways Brokerage Inc. Looks like they specialize in moving equipment. Williams Tractor Sales in Longview, Tx pointed me in their direction as they use them often. They offerred farily reasonble LTL shipping of a tractor from Tx to Toronto, ON. I would have to find a customs broker to work with them on the paperwork at the border and would have to pay GST and PST through the customs broker. I would also be responsible for finding a way to unload the tractor when it arrived - they would deliver to my home or to a loading dock if I had one available. Most people seem to hire a flat bed wrecker truck to transfer the tractor from the delivery try if they go for a home delivery. Seems like this would not be too tough to organize at my end.

Having been armed with this information and the costs, I've decided that shipping is still a lot of logistics and I an going to continue to look for a local deal - particularly a private one so that I can save on taxes. Even with the higher price of tractors here, once you add in the shipping, brokerage, unloading costs and the logistical hassle and risk of not seeing the tractor in person before you buy, I've decided its not worthwhile unless it comes close to spring time and I have pastures to cut and have not been able to locate what I am looking for.

Most folks I know up here have Kubotas and are very happy with them. As a result this is the colour I planned to go with. However I had vastly different experience visiting JD and Kubota dealers locally. First off there are a lot of JD dealers around and very few Kubota. And the local JD dealers all seemd a lot more organized, professional etc. Not a general statement, this is just what I found within 50 miles of me.

As a result I'll be keeping my eye open for a JD deal if possible - 4300/4310/4400/4410 and as an alternative look at a Kubota if the right one comes along.

Thanks again for all the wisdom from everyone who has contributed.

 

[777777]

Hey Canoetrpr,

Northern Tool ( northerntool.ca ) now sells their Dongfengs in Canada as new with free shipping.

Also, your could try this URL for a MF 1035 with 950 Hrs and loader. Is north of Toronto and would probably deal.

http://www.bargainshopper.ca/bishoptractor/24.htm

Have fun in your quest.

Tom

 

[canoetrpr]

Hey Tom:

Small world eh? I've dropped by in the past and looked at this tractor. Its pretty close to where I live. I found that it was a great deal but wasn't in hugely great condition when I saw it in person.

There've been a couple of other prospects around at look good. I'm told by a farmer I know that a LOT of farmers around here trade in their tractors at the end of the year - like the last week of December - if they figure its been a good year - so that they lower their annual tax bill.

 

[777777]

Hi,

Yup, always a small world.

Well, who knows from the picture. Thought looked interesting re hrs and price.

There is a dealer on Hwy 5, the other side of Waterdown that had a very large Kobota ( L something but at least 30 HP )with an FEL, hydro, for $18K ask. He sells to local nurseries, goes out and checks on them to see if need service, does the service on site or brings them in for service.
Can't remember model but would have been in great shape as dealer is big on service and even has a truck on the road all the time to service tractors. Dealer is Galer Farm Equipment. Also had some other used stuff. Imagine flexible re price.
Another dealer around here has a Holland 1320 ( 21 hp )but not one of the new little ones, soft cab, loader, tiller, finish mower, hydro and around 871 hrs. Ask on it is $14900 which I thought was a little high but probably could deal a bit off it.
My buddy took me to see it and was nice shape. Didn't like the saleman but the owner introduced himself and was a nice guy.
One more is the Benye's ( Chinese ) the guy in Toronto has in the Autotrader. Should loader, tractor for $9k.

Better yet, do you want a TYM 330 HST, loader, 5' belly mower with less than a 100 hrs on it. Has a Kubota motor. Comes complete with 5 year warranty on powertrain and up to 10 year financing. Ask is $24,500 but you could figure 10% off that.

How about a new Massey GC2300 for $15K with loader or a
2310 TLB for $20K.

Hey, I should be a saleman.

Anyways, always have my eyes open.

Later and have a good one.

Tom

 

[canoetrpr]

Its a smaller world than I even thought! I jumped on that L3010 that Galer has the day it was listed at 18k on autotrader. By then it had already been sold :-(.

My next really good prospect is a L3450 thats ten years old but only has 340 hours on it - in Stratford. Just need to get down and see it. He's asking for 19k for it.

I've also got another dealer pricing out a JD000 D4400 with 500 or some hours on it. Seems like a really nice machine but I'm afraid that it will come in at a bit more than I really want to spend. 18k with a FEL would be just right - leaving room for taxes and a bush hog on top of that.

 

[777777]

Hi,

I was in there just the day after he got it in. Thought was a bit pricey myself but what the hey.

You are getting up there in price. If it wasn't for your property size would suggest the Massey 2300 at $15K new or the 2310 TLB at $19900 with rebates of $500 and $900. Add in the 0% for 3 years and is pretty attractive. Greenline in Smithville has a Bota with cab, loader, blower for I think around $17k but may have a few hours on it. Can't recall hrs or series but seemed like a fair sized one.
If you are going to spend around 20K then you might as well look at the Deere 790 with a loader which you should be able to pick up most places for $19-20 with good financing.
Guy outside of Belleville has new Bransons starting at $24k with loader\remotes\loaded tires\block heater.

Good luck on your quest.

Later
Tom

 

[junyacipo]

Hello,

I live near of Mtl, I am OK with you when you talk about the price of used tractor the other side of the border. I am look for a mower Kubota Type F 2560 or 3060 and Kubota 3830. Yesterday, i found a carrier to brink back damaged car or other equipments to Canada via Stanstead border. The cost are reasonable. For a example, for 640 miles ride for a damaged car cost ±450$ CDN if the load are full with other equipments.

JD versus Kubota

I make a trial on my land three weeks ago of JD 3720 wt loader & Kubota 3830 wt loader for a full week end. The both are hydrostatic transmission. I am owner of Ford #1620 wt loader , hydrostatic and mower 60” bought in 1992. Now, my Ford has 3500 hrs run on the clock. No problem since 14 years run. I want to replace it by a more powerful tractor not bigger than my #1620. I plan to use a separate equipment to mow the grass next year.
JD are not the same equipment than Kubota. JD are more “marketable” product. It is more fashion, beautiful color mach green & yellow, electronic dash with different light for everything……no cluch pedal. It has plenty of hp, with a rought transmission. The Kubota is more convenience for working. The transmission are smoother, the engine run less noisy, you have a cluch pedal to stop PTO in case of….. . The loader and three point of Kubota are heavier and hydraulic components are better to. Either my Ford loader are more heavy than the JD and hydraulic components are the same than the new Kubota (Good quality). If you think working, reliable and resale Kubota is my 1st choice. The comparison are the same. Do you want to be a owner of Toyota or a GM car?
Junyacipo

 

[Longspur]

I bought my JD790 from a dealer 600 miles from my home. I rented a 7000# flat bed trailer from my local rental place for $130US a WEEK! Hooked it up to my E-150 van, took a few days off work, and enjoyed the adventure. There is lots of pride in doing things yourself. Saved me about $4,000. WOW! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif