Apple computers

[aczlan]

Biggest issue is IMO is companies buy canned software without testing it enough out in the field to get exactly what they want.

Either that or they don't understand (or can't explain) exactly what they want, so the software as purchased or developed meets the stated requirements, but they do not meet the actual needs of the end users.

Aaron Z

 

[Sigarms]

My old company has a sizeable IT department and we had other CRM packages like Siebel. My view is they went to sales force because the business just wants to outsource everything IT and put it in the "cloud."

My wife has rubbed off on me, I trust nothing in the cloud

Ironically enough, with salesforce, most end users I've found don't care for it but management thinks it has to be the golden egg for some reason. I found it ironic my old company paid a butt load of money for salesforce only to read what I type into it, but they would never read their "free e-mail". Go figure.

 

[aczlan]

My wife has rubbed off on me, I trust nothing in the cloud

All "in the cloud" is in reality means is "on someone else's server"
How good it is (and how secure or safe the data is) depends entirely on the people running the server.


Aaron Z

 

[tguy]

Was a PC/Windows user for many years. The kids (all APPLE) talked me into an Apple. OMG computers as they should be!

 

[Grumpycat]

At work (science/engineering) we're about 50% Apple now, which is way up in recent years. Seems like it's now "cool" to use an Apple product. Back when I started work in the 1990s, Macs were more like 10-15% and you had to be somewhat of a fanatic to use one. I noticed the same trend on the college campus where I teach, but even stronger -- I'd say 80% of the students have Apple laptops now. I suspect much of these changes were driven by iPhones and iPads expanding Apple's reach to customers.

Science and Engineering users have long favored Unix. MacOS moved from homegrown OS to Unix in 2000 with MacOS X.

 

[Grumpycat]

And if you use linux, you get work done.

Almost all the computers that run operations that I致e worked on for the last 30 yrs run something Unix. In the last 10+ yrs Linux.

99% of desktop computers for email, office and sw development at work are windows.

If you want to customize your system and not run stock machine you don稚 go apple.

If you just turn it on and browse the web use a chrome book.

If you want Apple Pay for apple.

Prior to 2000 Apple hired a significant number of core FreeBSD developers and MacOS X 10.0.0 became a System V Unix. Until recently most all man pages still listed origin as FreeBSD.

 

[deserteagle71]

All "in the cloud" is in reality means is "on someone else's server"
How good it is (and how secure or safe the data is) depends entirely on the people running the server.
Aaron Z

All the cloud means to me is that when my internet is down completely (as it was this morning for a while), or my internet is extremely slow for some unknown reason - then I can't access the data I need!

 

[ultrarunner]

Apple was brilliant in going for the education market... students, schools and teachers.

My nieces are teens and they are 100% Apple because it is what they know going back to early years of grade school.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Brings a new meaning to an old man yelling at clouds.

 

[drssg]

There's two different schools of thought about what I.T. should be.

School 1 provides working hardware and software and support for how to use both, resolve issues, develop solutions, work with the users, etc...

School 2 provides working hardware and software. The end. It's up to the users to figure out how to actually use it.

I was in school 1 for a long, long time. Then we were forced by corporate to follow school 2 rules. It was the time when I.T., basically a cost center, because they don't generate any income, switched to a revenue center, because corporate I.T. charges child companies for their services. So child companies have to budget I.T. expenses that go back to corporate I.T.

It's about the time I.T. changed from being helpful saviors to despised weasels. :laughing:

I saw my time coming to an end and side-stepped a reduction in force by taking a position in maintenance. Got back to working with my hands. :thumbsup:

I met my wife when we were both working in the IT department of a large corporation. She stayed there and I left, because they were moving towards "School 2" and beyond.

She now has 7AM conference calls every day with the crew in India, because that's about 6PM their time. Communication is horrendous. On top of the language barrier, some of them are on their commute home during the call, so they get weird background noises. She has to follow up on every little thing with them, like they were children. My wife makes an impressive salary to do this, and all this supposedly adds up to cost savings for the company.

On a sort of positive note, no one even cares if she comes into the office anymore. She doesn't work face-to-face with anyone anyway.

They are moving away from even providing employees with physical computers. Employees load the corporate VPN software onto their personal computer and then remotely connect to virtual computers in the cloud.

Her salary maxed out at more than twice mine, but I never would have lasted there. I just didn't fit in.

 

[MossRoad]

My point is there is a difference in technical ability between an IT person and a network administrator.
....

I can't say that I know what you mean by an IT person. Network administration is considered a career in IT.

From Webster's Dictionary:

Definition of information technology
: the technology involving the development, maintenance, and use of computer systems, software, and networks for the processing and distribution of data

 

[Racenut]

If you're in the IT department, IMO you write the code for the software your company uses to function as a business.

A statement like this is like looking through the peephole in your door and thinking you've seen the world.

 

[Alien]

We have a late 2009 Mac and I fitted a SSD last year. It still goes well. I also use Win7 laptop. Not interested in Win 10.
Also have a iPad pro and iphones and androids. I prefer my Android Samsung S4 Tab to the ipad pro but happy to use anything.
I will replace the Mac with a new one eventually rather than a Windows machine.

 

[hayden]

Windows is an implement of self-torture. Mac is a useful tool. I switched about 10 years ago when I left the business workforce which was pretty well locked into windows. I've never been happier, or looked back. Every time I have to do something with windows, I cringe remembering how much time and energy I wasted over the years fighting with it.

If you get a mac, go spend $70 and get VMWare Fusion for it. It creates a virtual PC that runs as part of your mac. You just connect it to your old PC, and it sucks it's brains out and poof, you old PC now runs on your mac. You can them move things over at your leisure, and still run any legacy windows apps. I still have a handful that only run on windows, and I'm still running my vitrual Windows XP system from 10 years ago. I still use it for Quicken, AutoCAD, Visio, and the occasional utility program that is windows only.

When you are done, you will see how wonderful it is to have your computer work for you, rather than you work for your computer. It's your *****, not the other way around.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

VMware fusion $160

But I love the description of what it does. Lol. My next laptop might be apple, since I don’t customize them.

But then I see an equivalent HW Mac laptop is more than 2x cost of same specs windows one.

 

[Trillium Farm]

VMware fusion $160
But I love the description of what it does. Lol. My next laptop might be apple, since I don稚 customize them.
But then I see an equivalent HW Mac laptop is more than 2x cost of same specs windows one.

That's because they are much better built and will outlast a PC 5:1

 

[dragoneggs]

VMware fusion $160

But I love the description of what it does. Lol. My next laptop might be apple, since I don’t customize them.

But then I see an equivalent HW Mac laptop is more than 2x cost of same specs windows one.

Or use 'Parrallels'. Half the price ($79.99) of VMWare and faster. Been using it for 8 years since moving to Mac laptop. Pretty much seamless operation. I have both iOS and Windows running all of the time and it is a quick swipe on the pad to switch back and forth. Same Folders/Files are accessible on either desktop.

 

[aczlan]

That's because they are much better built and will outlast a PC 5:1

That depends on the laptop, a $300 "Walmart Special" sure (even if it is similarly fast).
A Latitude 5000 or 7000 series, not so much.

Aaron Z

 

[buckeyefarmer]

That's because they are much better built and will outlast a PC 5:1

I’m talking Same processors, memory, SSD, etc. apple is over2x

 

[dragoneggs]

My next laptop might be apple, since I don稚 customize them.

But then I see an equivalent HW Mac laptop is more than 2x cost of same specs windows one.

That's because they are much better built and will outlast a PC 5:1

I知 talking Same processors, memory, SSD, etc. apple is over2x

And well worth it IMO.