Apples/Oranges and cash

[daTeacha]

I would buy the JD FEL just to maintain a good working relationship with that dealership. Good guys or not, it helps to throw business their way. Your new tractor will probably need something in the way of parts or service sooner or later and it will help to let them know you are willing to buy new stuff from them, too. Besides, maybe they can find you a deal on a used backhoe for the new tractor. The way things keep falling your way, I fully expect that to happen.

 

[RoyJackson]

I would buy the JD FEL just to maintain a good working relationship with that dealership. Good guys or not, it helps to throw business their way. Your new tractor will probably need something in the way of parts or service sooner or later and it will help to let them know you are willing to buy new stuff from them, too. Besides, maybe they can find you a deal on a used backhoe for the new tractor. The way things keep falling your way, I fully expect that to happen.

LOL, you going to give him the $3000 to $4000 to maintain that good relationship, Rich?

 

[BillyP]

The tractor was bought new in May 06 and the remaining warranty is transferable. Has anyone got any thoughts on the 400cx loader vs the same size Woods loader? The NH dealer will get me the Woods in green but the JD guy is offering to put on the 400 and the NH guy would haul the tractor there instead of my farm. Both are great guys!

I guess I missed something? It's June 07 now so wouldn't that leave 12 and 24?

Still a great deal, just not understanding the warranty.

 

[BillyP]

LOL, you going to give him the $3000 to $4000 to maintain that good relationship, Rich?

 

[john_bud]

Which Woods loader and what are the differences in price between the JD and Woods?

If the difference wasn't much $ more that a couple hundred, I'd get the JD. If it was more than that the Woods 215 is a good loader - but not one with the fancy curved arms. There are new woods loaders with curved arms. LC and LU series. The LU132 looks the most similar to the 400CX.


Product Specification for 400CX Loader

http://www.woodsequipment.com/literature/pdf/200-300-3100 LIT 0804.pdf

GroundMover-X Series Loaders by Woods Equipment Company


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The JD loader specs are with a bucket that weighs only 238 pounds. That is LESS than the 9 cu-ft bucket on my kubota L3410. A real bucket matched to the capacity of the loader will weigh 450# - 500#. I don't know what the bucket specs are on the Woods, but you have to watch it close to avoid getting mislead.

 

[radman1]

Like John Bud says, if the loaders are near the same price, I would go with the JD. Tractors with the same brand of loaders are a little more desireable in the long run. No warranty issues or misunderstandings with the same brand of loader. Both JD and Woods make good loaders. I would also add, you might consider getting a skid steer attachment on the loader now and with a matching bucket. Can use/rent many skid steer attachments later if desired.

 

[daTeacha]

LOL, you going to give him the $3000 to $4000 to maintain that good relationship, Rich?

No, I wouldn't go that far -- maybe an 8th of it. I was presuming the prices were at least competitive between the Woods and JD units.

The comments about the bucket weight bring up a point I've never been able to get a good solid answer to -- when loader lift abilities are given, does that include the bucket or is it net weight the thing is able to lift? With our little machines especially, that can be a pretty big percentage of the capability of the loader. I figure my 60" QD bucket on the LX114 CNH loader, plus the grapple, plus the toothbar I made leaves me with about 350 lb hanging on the front end before I even start to lift something else. I take unneeded parts off when I'm going to be moving heavy stuff. I dropped the entire assembly to unload a large square bale of hay from the truck.

 

[john_bud]

Rich,

It's a real kabobble of marketing. It's almost impossible to get an honest comparision. JD has about the best specs, but they play games and use a 238# bucket! That has to be a 48 or maybe a 60" light duty bucket. No way applicable for the tractors the loader is being used on.

The old (back in the 50's and 60's) industrial loader information listed how much the dern thing could pick up in the bucket to full height and how long it took to do it (cycle time with full weight). They also listed the bucket used. I'd like to see that type of clear information again - but won't hold my breath!

jb