Are my parents to strict?

   / Are my parents to strict? #111  
Yes I am scared of them and I don't want to upset them. I think that if I do they'll take away my little freedoms I have and then i'll be even more miserable.

I think you mis understand the point. You're a man now, not a boy and if acting like a man and not a boy upsets them, then let them be upset. If it means you have a strained relationship or no relationship with them, well, you've done your best. They can no longer take away your freedoms if you don't let them, leaving is now an option and there's nothing they can do to stop you.

Whats your guys views on this matter. I had a Facebook account and it was my only way of contact with friends, it really made me feel good to be able to be in contact with them. Well someone at church found out and told my parents and I got in trouble for it, and the 'elders' (guys who run the church) got involved. I really want to be able to see what my friends ( what little i have) are up to and be able to talk to them. Since I'm 18 should I go ahead and get it back?

My view is that if it's their computer or their internet connection or their electrical power and they don't want you to use it, you should get your own computer with your own internet connection and your own power and do what you want with it. The more you post, the more I think you should either move far far away from you parents or join the military as has been suggested.

My (now ex) sister in law grew up in a jehovah witness house hold. She was eventually excomunicated (or whatever they call it) because she refused to follow along anymore. It was many years before she had any contact with her parents but did eventually restore a bit of a relationship with her parents. I think you need to consider this option.
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #112  
texasjohn, very well said, I agree 100% with everything you say.
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #113  
I think you mis understand the point. You're a man now, not a boy and if acting like a man and not a boy upsets them, then let them be upset. If it means you have a strained relationship or no relationship with them, well, you've done your best. They can no longer take away your freedoms if you don't let them, leaving is now an option and there's nothing they can do to stop you.
I agree. I know someone who decided to change from one religion to another and his father didn't speak to him for many years (close to 20). He will tell you that it was worth it if you ask today.

My view is that if it's their computer or their internet connection or their electrical power and they don't want you to use it, you should get your own computer with your own internet connection and your own power and do what you want with it. The more you post, the more I think you should either move far far away from you parents or join the military as has been suggested.
I agree. Under their roof, on their internet connection, they make the rules. Move out and you make your own rules.

Cub123,
Overall, from what you have said, it appears that they want to retain control over you when they should be letting you get some experiences on your own. IMO, it is better if the "Apron strings" are loosened before they are cut so that the change isn't as abrupt, but in some cases (such as yours seems to be) they need to be cut.


Aaron Z
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #114  
Wow, now it's you vs the entire church. Heavy, man. Can't imagine what their objections are assuming communications between friends was regarding legal matters, avoiding ****, etc...I fully understand the desire to stay connected with friends. Wish Facebook had existed when I graduated high school and left town for college as did all my good friends...never could meet up with anyone after that...no mobile phones, text, etc...real bummer.

Alternatives to stay connected other than Facebook might be texting, mobile phone calls, twitter. But I fear the problem is a need to control rather than the medium? This kind of control drives people away rather than including them. Tough call, possibly some elder is watching for a new account to be opened??

Whats your guys views on this matter. I had a Facebook account and it was my only way of contact with friends, it really made me feel good to be able to be in contact with them. Well someone at church found out and told my parents and I got in trouble for it, and the 'elders' (guys who run the church) got involved. I really want to be able to see what my friends ( what little i have) are up to and be able to talk to them. Since I'm 18 should I go ahead and get it back?
 
   / Are my parents to strict?
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#115  
Wow, now it's you vs the entire church. Heavy, man. Can't imagine what their objections are assuming communications between friends was regarding legal matters, avoiding ****, etc...I fully understand the desire to stay connected with friends. Wish Facebook had existed when I graduated high school and left town for college as did all my good friends...never could meet up with anyone after that...no mobile phones, text, etc...real bummer.

Alternatives to stay connected other than Facebook might be texting, mobile phone calls, twitter. But I fear the problem is a need to control rather than the medium? This kind of control drives people away rather than including them. Tough call, possibly some elder is watching for a new account to be opened??

Well I can't even txt them. I have an app that I text a few friends with and if it wasn't for them I don't know what I'd do. I'm not supposed to be texting them. Yes I know it's going behind my parents backs but I need some sort of interaction with friends. I can't just sit here at home all the time and not talk to anyone besides family.
 
   / Are my parents to strict?
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#116  
Cub, this thread gives you the most honest, realistic and informative advice I can imagine. Having read only one page, I am impressed by your attitude, ambitions and honest responses.

You remind me greatly of a friend that my sons had in high school. His dad was never home, scads of sisters and a brother, no money for advanced education, not sure what to do. What he did have was a good head on his shoulders, ability to see his situation realistically, he wanted to make something of himself. He was willing to work, came out to the ranch extremely often and helped me work cattle, build fence, do mechanic work, etc. He had lots of energy and always did his share of work and far more, without complaining when he got blisters or about the heat or dirt. Honest as the day is long. He did very well in high school. He graduated and that summer had a job roofing houses.

You are very like him.

One hot day on a house top, he said to himself: "I don't want to live this way the rest of my life. No real future and no way out. I've got to do something to find a way to a better life and that means going to college." He made a conscious decision to jump into the unknown. He joined the navy, served 6 years, excelled in all education provided, asked for responsible assignments, served in the power plant of a nuclear aircraft carrier, saved his money for college.

After he got out, he was uncertain about where and how to apply for college (never having done it). I helped him, encouraged him to apply at Rice University (very well respected). He was accepted on a scholarship and worked his way thru, getting a BS and MS degree in Electrical Engineering. Now married, 3 kids, works for NASA as a EE. Very successful.

Point is, Cub, you are like him. I can sense it from your writing. Excellent grammar, no misspelled words, clear thoughts well phrased, tenacity and a willingness/ability to reach out to others for information and advice, initiative, self awareness, intelligent, forthright. I have seen hundreds of resumes from college grads applying for jobs. Trust me, these qualities stand out from the printed word....and you have them...as good as the best 10% of what I have seen. Perhaps hard for you to believe, but true. And, this is the reason you have gotten soooo many honest and extensive responses to your posts...lots of other people see these qualities as well.

You mentioned being depressed. You are not alone, 25% of adults have mental health issues annually. So, we all deal with this personally or in our families...more information at NAMI | What is Mental Illness? . If you feel you are becoming immobilized and things are hopeless, please know that there are places you can go for help, find one and go there (PM me if you wish)...from what you have said, your family is not going to be helpful here.

You are a unique YOU....and nobody can tell you what is the best path...but you can DECIDE that for yourself. And I trust you will. That said, my comments/advice would be:

DECIDE for yourself what realistic and positive path you WILL take, prepare as best you can including timeline/steps required to get started, then discuss with your parents. Let them know you love them and are grateful for all they have done and hope they will assist and support your decision, but even if they don't then you will continue to love them while proceeding with your chosen path. To facilitate this discussion, I suggest you write it all down in a letter and rework it until it says what you want to say. Then, call a family meeting, ask them to listen without comment while you read the entire letter, then discussion can follow.

You are 18 now, but I think still in high school? I suggest you wait until after graduation to assure you get the diploma, very important.
You don't want to leave a girl...but this may have to be the way it is. If you become serious, without further education/college and a job, then you become further mired down and many future options close down. It is time for you to open options and possibilities as you go forward, not begin shutting them down. Emotionally painful, yes, but it's part of loving yourself (a good thing and not a selfish thing) and being the best YOU that can be!

You have mentioned two paths: full college scholarship or the military. Either way is a good way to go. Both are moving positively to new experiences, greater independence, more education/knowledge. Many have worked their way thru college with various types of scholarships, government loans (including our current president and his wife), etc. Sometimes when trying to make a decision for a particular path it helps to write as many answers as possible to these questions:

I am excited about path X because...
I am afraid of path X because...
To follow path X I will have to...

I wish you all the best....we've all wrestled with similar anxieties, worries and concerns...part of growing up...hopefully they can be used as a positive force to encourage decisions, change and a positive future rather than becoming immobilizing and all consuming.

Thank you very much. It made me feel better about myself. That really encouraged me and gave me some things to think about.
 
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#117  
I think you mis understand the point. You're a man now, not a boy and if acting like a man and not a boy upsets them, then let them be upset. If it means you have a strained relationship or no relationship with them, well, you've done your best. They can no longer take away your freedoms if you don't let them, leaving is now an option and there's nothing they can do to stop you.

My view is that if it's their computer or their internet connection or their electrical power and they don't want you to use it, you should get your own computer with your own internet connection and your own power and do what you want with it. The more you post, the more I think you should either move far far away from you parents or join the military as has been suggested.

My (now ex) sister in law grew up in a jehovah witness house hold. She was eventually excomunicated (or whatever they call it) because she refused to follow along anymore. It was many years before she had any contact with her parents but did eventually restore a bit of a relationship with her parents. I think you need to consider this option.

Yes that's true I am a man. I'm just afraid of upsetting them, but I'm going to have to take a stand for myself and do it.
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #118  
Take your panties off, put some boxers on and get out of that mind bending religion you're in. Even Mormons get to use the Facebook. You know what you need to do. Do it. Don't let anyone on this planet walk on you. That's not the way it works in the real world. You need to attend some college classes and mingle with people your own age(chicks) that aren't in that crazy religion. Join the military and get firefighter training there. Just get out of that house. They're ruining you
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #119  
Yes that's true I am a man. I'm just afraid of upsetting them, but I'm going to have to take a stand for myself and do it.

At 18 you are old enough to vote. You are old enough to defend the country with your life. You are old enough to make some decisions for yourself. However, you are still under your parents' roof and have to abide by their rules... so what do you do?

Every adult has to face these decisions sometime in their life. Discuss it with your folks. Tell them you love them, but there are some things you need to find out for yourself. If they can't accept that, its time to move out. See if you can move in with a friend and enroll in a high school or GED program yourself. USE THAT SCHOLARSHIP!

Someone recently said "The days seem so long, but the years go by so fast". In a few short years, you'll look back and wonder where the time went as you are finishing your college degree. You can do it. :thumbsup:
 
   / Are my parents to strict? #120  
Cub, as mature as you are becoming thru this process, you are facing a very adult decision crossing your parents,
their circle of friends, and the Church. I am sure you know the consequences that can come with your decisions,
and I think that is where you are struggling. Only you can decide if the life outside your family is going to be worth it.
I think it's great that you have such goals and wish you the very best getting them. I also feel in your words that you
are having a very hard time with the thought of breaking ties with your family, and, I think we all feel that is a good
possibility if you decide to follow your path, instead of theirs.
At some point, the sneaking around to communicate with friends will become a larger issue, as I'm sure the use of
any technology could be. You are already exposed to the world with technology, and it sounds like it's something you
wish to have in your life, along with the connections to friends etc.
Do your parents know about your girl friend? If so, what are their thoughts? if not, what would their opinion be?
I have a feeling she isn't part of your Church, and if that's true she's probably not going to be accepted either.
Good luck in whatever you do. You do have some great qualities, and are miles ahead of many your age by
openly discussing this here. I just hope you think very hard about any decisions you make, as they more than
likely will change your life forever.
 

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