Aren't you the lucky one(s)

   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #11  
I know how you feel, There really isn't anyone in my area that does this for a living or even as side work . I cut one guys field three years ago and now I get a few calls a summer to mow just from him telling people I did his.
Well, I had a guy a few weeks ago call me and wanted me to cut a 10-12 acre field. He was pretty insistant on the phone for a quote and I told him I would really have to see the field. He wanted a ball park figure so i gave him one. ($300 depending) Well, you would have thought I asked for his first born child !!!
I am not trying to rip anyone off ( obviously by the price I gave him) I politely reminded him of the price of diesel today and suggested he try to find someone who will do it for a price he is happy with. I highly doubt that field gets cut this year. No one around here has the time and especially at the rate he is willing to pay...
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #12  
Farmwithjunk said:
there's a RIGHT WAY and a WRONG WAY to go about anything.

That is definitely true and as the saying goes its easier to attract flies with honey than vinegar. A little tact and a little respect go a long way in a business deal.
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #13  
Too many customers believe cash is everything... and it isn't.

I'm always working with contractors for projects at the Hospital where I work... Sometimes, I put out a request for proposal and often I by-pass that and go directly to someone I've worked with before.

Once the contract is signed... I do whatever I can to assist the Contractor in getting the job done... staying late, opening early and mostly running interference from the Hospital Staff... many of whom are quick to complain and say... the contractors are getting payed... so they had better work around the our schedule.

Many fail to understand that not treating your contractor right often results in many unforeseen problems...
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #14  
Farmwithjunk

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess, that the people who got mad at you are more than able to pay for your services. These are probably the same type of people that charge an arm and a leg for services and expect everyone to pay their prices without question.

Solo
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #15  
Not all customers are bad or try to take advantage of your work.
We had a tornado in Feb. that took down a bunch of large trees in the front and back yard. and while the crew was removing the trees a man stopped with a stump grinder and offered to remove the remaining stumps. Told him when the crew was finished he could do his work. next day he returned and worked the day removing the remaining stumps to 6 inches below the soil line. Paid the bill and gave him a chain saw of the type he was carring in his truck. A bonus for good work. Was unable to work in the back yard due to weather so said would return later. A month later again returned and removed the stumps. didn't charge what we concidered the going price was so when he gave us the bill we doubled the amount in thanks for a good job and a person that kept his word in returning.
All customers are not trying to get the cheapest price.
just the ones we hear about.
se'ya ken
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #16  
Welcome to the business world. I just had a pretty good customer drop me today. He got impatient with something I had to special order, and of course I never asked for a deposit. He told me cancel the order, so I did. Well his valve came in today. He called me later to apologize and to send him the valve when it comes in. Well you know what, that valve just had a price increase of 25%. ;) ;) ;) :D
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #17  
Wayne County Hose said:
Welcome to the business world. I just had a pretty good customer drop me today. He got impatient with something I had to special order, and of course I never asked for a deposit. He told me cancel the order, so I did. Well his valve came in today. He called me later to apologize and to send him the valve when it comes in. Well you know what, that valve just had a price increase of 25%. ;) ;) ;) :D

So he cancelled the order because it was taking too long to come in. He then changed his mind and apologized for canceling the order (which it seems like is his prerogative) and that he'd like to buy it when it arrived. So you get it in and the price goes up 25%?

My question is why did the price go up? Did the wholesaler charge you more for it or did you increase the price because he cancelled an order? If you increased the price punitively I'm not sure who the 'bad' guy is in that scenario.

I hear an awful lot about people in adversarial relationships with their customers. And I'm not claiming that its any different with me, but it seems a bit disturbing. I often have to remind myself that these folks, who are often rude and thoughtless are the people who put bread on my table. Sometimes that helps my attitude, sometimes it doesn't. And in the case of the OP, some folks just aren't worth dealing with. If all of your customer base fits that bill then maybe you (and me) would be better off doing something else. Fortunately most of my customers are good folks who pay me what they owe, get good service from me and we're all happy.

But in my opinion the saying ought to be 'all is fair in love and war...and business'. As a customer I want to get what I want and for the best price I can find. And in that regard I'm talking about comparable services and quality. Quality is part of what you choose to pay for or not pay for. That's not the issue, I'm talking apple-to-apples. If I want to pay less to get less, well, that's a customer's prerogative too.

I was in my mother-in-laws shoe store many years ago and there was a shrew-like older women who was obviously very wealthy (she looked it and this shoe store is high end) in there giving her heck about prices and trying to get here to come down. Well, my mother-in-law knocks the price down and sells her some shoes. After she left I was a bit amazed. I asked my mother-in-law why she even dealt with that old witch who was too rich to be low balling here like that. My mother-in-law smiled and told me two things: First, the reason she was so rich was that that was how she handled all her affairs, she kept as much of her money as she possibly could and that my M-I-L admired her for it. That didn't make me feel much better about it but then she told me that this lady was probably her very best customer and had stuck with her for years and brought a lot of money into that show store. So she was one of those PITA customers but in the end, she was worth every penny of it. This shoe store is still open after 30 years with Walmarts and Pay-less shoes, etc all around them.

And here is a take home message: Competition can do wonders for us folks who have customers. I know that from first hand experience. When you compete for your customers you're much more likely to keep that smile on your face and a good attitude. Lack of competition makes some of us worse than our worse customers. BTDT.

But the bottom line is that it all boils down to the Golden Rule doesn't it? And in that regard there are customers and 'merchants' who don't get it and never will. The world is full of sorry people on both ends. All the rest if us can do is try to live by example and hope some of them will come around and when they don't, cut our losses and be done with them.

I do business with a lot of people who bring nothing more to the table in regard to the product or the service than anyone else but I still do business with them, sometimes at higher cost, just because they are good, kind, decent people.
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s)
  • Thread Starter
#18  
Solo said:
Farmwithjunk

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess, that the people who got mad at you are more than able to pay for your services. These are probably the same type of people that charge an arm and a leg for services and expect everyone to pay their prices without question.

Solo


She's an attorney with a very successful practice. He's a cardiologist. I wonder how many half priced triple bypass surgeries he's done this week?
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s) #19  
George, it's also my perogative to charge 25% more for the valve. Especially when my competitor wanted double my original price. I spent time on the phone to cancel the order, they did a tracker on the package and attempted to intercept. I received a bill for a restocking fee in the mean time. Most of my bills are faxed. The package was already on the UPS truck and I was told I could just refuse it. I accepted the valve anyway rather than paying the restocking fee, I figured I could probably get rid of it anyway. Now, I have to call and have the restocking fee removed from my account. So, for my time and aggravation, sure, I tack on 25% and am still way cheaper than my competition. Do I feel bad, no, not when people throw temper tantrums over nothing. If this makes me a bad guy, then I guess I am.
 
   / Aren't you the lucky one(s)
  • Thread Starter
#20  
Ken said:
Not all customers are bad or try to take advantage of your work.
We had a tornado in Feb. that took down a bunch of large trees in the front and back yard. and while the crew was removing the trees a man stopped with a stump grinder and offered to remove the remaining stumps. Told him when the crew was finished he could do his work. next day he returned and worked the day removing the remaining stumps to 6 inches below the soil line. Paid the bill and gave him a chain saw of the type he was carring in his truck. A bonus for good work. Was unable to work in the back yard due to weather so said would return later. A month later again returned and removed the stumps. didn't charge what we concidered the going price was so when he gave us the bill we doubled the amount in thanks for a good job and a person that kept his word in returning.
All customers are not trying to get the cheapest price.
just the ones we hear about.
se'ya ken

I agree whole-heartedly. MOST of my customers are appreciative of the fact I give quick service, lower prices than my LEGITIMATE competition, and they get AT LEAST what they pay for.
 

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