Aren't you the lucky one(s)

[Wayne County Hose]

She's an attorney with a very successful practice. He's a cardiologist. I wonder how many half priced triple bypass surgeries he's done this week?

Funny, usually the people that have the problem with price have the most money. That's my experience anyway.

 

[WilliamBos]

She's an attorney with a very successful practice. He's a cardiologist. I wonder how many half priced triple bypass surgeries he's done this week?

Holy Smokes!! Maybe they should price out the same equipment as you use. Once they find out just how much it costs, maybe they will wake up and realize your price was fair.

 

[N80]

She's an attorney with a very successful practice. He's a cardiologist. I wonder how many half priced triple bypass surgeries he's done this week?

You might be surprised. Some physicians do a tremendous amount of work for no charge at all. I know that for a fact. And she is required by the Bar to do a certain amount of pro bono work (though that might be an urban legend).

But that's not my point. I don't think how much money someone has is relevant to what they are willing to or should be willing to pay for goods and services. If they are jerks then they're jerks and it certainly sounds like this guy is one in a big way. And while I think generosity is one of the finest character traits, I probably think less of rich people who throw their money around than rich people who are careful with what they have.

And rich is relevant. There's always someone poorer are richer than you or me. And its always easy for someone who has less than you to judge you on what they think you have.

 

[cityfarma]

I have not read the whole thread so I hope this has not been said already. I am reminded of a notice in a shop that went along the lines of

"I won't try to compete with other businesses on price. After all who better to know the value of their service."

Cityfarma

 

[Farmwithjunk]

You might be surprised. Some physicians do a tremendous amount of work for no charge at all. I know that for a fact. And she is required by the Bar to do a certain amount of pro bono work (though that might be an urban legend).

But that's not my point. I don't think how much money someone has is relevant to what they are willing to or should be willing to pay for goods and services. If they are jerks then they're jerks and it certainly sounds like this guy is one in a big way. And while I think generosity is one of the finest character traits, I probably think less of rich people who throw their money around than rich people who are careful with what they have.

And rich is relevant. There's always someone poorer are richer than you or me. And its always easy for someone who has less than you to judge you on what they think you have.

I'm not suprized at all. I know quite a few doctors and lawyers. I know what they're capable of. I also know what SOME of the greedy ones are capable of, and that's what these folks strike me as being. NOTHING is good enough for them. NOTHING is cheap enough for them. NO ONE is worthy of their attention. Well, one old guy I know of sure didn't cave in to their demands

I don't pay too much heed to a persons wealth or their lack of such. That has NOTHING to do with their character or lack of such.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Holy Smokes!! Maybe they should price out the same equipment as you use. Once they find out just how much it costs, maybe they will wake up and realize your price was fair.

Way back when, I used to believe people like this just didn't understand. Or else they just weren't all that smart. But the farther I made my way through life I began to realize most of them were very much aware of what it cost to operate a business. They knew full well what to expect as far as a "fair price". They just took on the approach that they'd ACT ignorant, pretend to expect the moon and the stars for peanuts, and some people would crack under pressure and GIVE 'em what they want. A "Whatta I have to lose" attitude. If I thought they were "ignorant", I'd probably have a little sympathy. Knowing that they were TRYING to play me, I have an obligation to myself to hold my ground.

 

[N80]

I also know what SOME of the greedy ones are capable of, and that's what these folks strike me as being. NOTHING is good enough for them. NOTHING is cheap enough for them. NO ONE is worthy of their attention.

I can remember as a young man thinking that if someone was a doctor that they must be good people. Then I went to med school. One of the things I learned there is that they are like every one else. Some of the worst people I know are doctors.

Well, one old guy I know of sure didn't cave in to their demands

You did the right thing. And I'll bet they'll never get a better deal. You'd hope that they'd learn their lesson, but you know what, people like that never do. They'll always blame their self inflicted troubles on someone else.

 

[browns40]

It's always tougher getting haggled than doing the haggling for sure, because the haggled know what they need for their time and effort, and the haggler--if they have any idea at all--wants to be the one who got the absolute best deal possible.

Transparency on costs and expected profit margin is the truest way to eliminate feet-planting and emotional influence in negotiation... at that point the only variable becomes what margin seems equitable to everyone.

I would expect, given rising costs of everything, many "sporadic hagglers" will get more aggressive than in the past, whereas regular purchasers of goods & services will have an understanding for how costs should be rising, and have a clearer expectation of what increases to expect.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

It's always tougher getting haggled than doing the haggling for sure, because the haggled know what they need for their time and effort, and the haggler--if they have any idea at all--wants to be the one who got the absolute best deal possible.

Transparency on costs and expected profit margin is the truest way to eliminate feet-planting and emotional influence in negotiation... at that point the only variable becomes what margin seems equitable to everyone.

I would expect, given rising costs of everything, many "sporadic hagglers" will get more aggressive than in the past, whereas regular purchasers of goods & services will have an understanding for how costs should be rising, and have a clearer expectation of what increases to expect.

I've bought and sold quite a few used tractors and a BUNCH of used implements over the years. I build in a little "wiggle room" on selling prices there. I expect a bit of bargaining. However, when I price SERVICES, I give my best price up front. That's it. I'm not auctioning off my labor. Take it or leave it. Since my prices seem to be as low or LOWER than my competitors, most everyone takes my price and is happy with it. I've found most of the complainers wouldn't be happy if I offered to do the job for free.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

I've bought and sold quite a few used tractors and a BUNCH of used implements over the years. I build in a little "wiggle room" on selling prices there. I expect a bit of bargaining. However, when I price SERVICES, I give my best price up front. That's it. I'm not auctioning off my labor. Take it or leave it. Since my prices seem to be as low or LOWER than my competitors, most everyone takes my price and is happy with it. I've found most of the complainers wouldn't be happy if I offered to do the job for free.

Boy, you talk about hitting the nail on the head. In my 1 year and 3 months of running my shop full time, I've had 1 customer leave unhappy and not come back. Come to find out that this guy gives everyone a hard time regardless of price. He's just looking for you to come down so he feels like he got a special deal. Well I wouldn't come down so he thought I was ripping him off. Funny thing is now he goes down the street and gets an inferior product for more money.