ARRRRRRGH!!!!!!! Broke my tractor.... Engine Block went SNAP...

[KrisHansen]

[[[The crack very likely started much earlier from an imperfection at a critical point in the casting.]]] It progressed slowly, finally weakening the connection to the degree that the relatively light work you were doing at the time caused the abrupt snap as it failed fully. Thats usually the way it happens. Its not what you were doing. Its all that you have done, combined with the latent defect that served as the starting point for the crack.
larry

There's still no reason that a top brand model (These are top brand, right?) should last only 305 hours. That's total crap. New Holland is doing nothing to ensure that I go away happy. they offer no guarantee that it would not happen again.

As for the link with the references to broken engines.. Why would people make that up? Why would they give specific fracture locations?

As for Messick saying that these things don't need reinforcements or whatever because they are CUT's not bulldozers, If I knew had to treat my New Holland like it was made of glass, I'd have never bought it. It's a tractor. I don't care that it's small. It should be TOUGH. Why even put a loader on a tractor if it can't handle it?

 

[dogbreath108]

[[[ Relief setpoint has nothing to do with this shock absorbing.]]] The relief is not on the cylinder side of the valve and cannot act when the valve is centered. If it did, a load that required full pressure to lift would fall to the ground as soon as you hit a bump. [The pressure on a relief valve has to fall below relief pressure in order for it to re seat.] Any appreciable load would edge down continuously as you moved on bumpy ground.
larry

Larry,
Some loaders and most with self leveling have safety reliefs on the bucket cylinder sides also...

Joe

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Kris and others; check out this link; cracked blocks seem to be happening more than we think.

New Holland TC30 Review, Price, Information

I found out somthing interesting that I thought I would share. All the reviews on that website about cracking issues where posted by the same person under different names and at different times. Seems someone has an ax to grind. Proof positive that you should not believe everything you read on the internet.

 

[KrisHansen]

I found out somthing interesting that I thought I would share. All the reviews on that website about cracking issues where posted by the same person under different names and at different times. Seems someone has an ax to grind. Proof positive that you should not believe everything you read on the internet.

Anything to back that claim up??

I have an axe to grind, in a big way. But at least I have pics to back it up.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Anything to back that claim up??

I have an axe to grind, in a big way. But at least I have pics to back it up.

I think Neil is associated or might be one of the admins for that site so he would be able to check the IP addys for the people who post there.

 

[NewToy]

I think Neil is associated or might be one of the admins for that site so he would be able to check the IP addys for the people who post there.

I hope ole' Neal blackballs the guy for the phony posts.

John

 

[mahlers]

Here's my $0.02 about what I would do if this were me. If New Holland offered to provide the parts for the tractor, but not the labor, and I tried in vain to get a better result, I would take them up on their offer. I'd let them give me the new block (and whatever else is necessary to do the fix), I'd take the tractor and parts home, and I'd put the whole thing on Ebay for a fair price and be done with it. You'd be surprised how many people would buy that rig as-is and just put the effort into swapping the parts out on their own.

Then, I'd be shopping for a replacement tractor with some of the really good financing deals that are out there right now - and just wash my hands of this deal because it just isn't worth the aggravation. That's an even better solution if you use your tractor for business purposes - you can take a whole new Section 179 deduction on the new rig.

 

[TBDonnelly]

Kris and others; check out this link; cracked blocks seem to be happening more than we think.

New Holland TC30 Review, Price, Information

I gave up on that website long ago because so many of the reviews appeared to be fabricated or someone had an axe to grind.

Don

 

[SPYDERLK]

[[[There's still no reason that a top brand model (These are top brand, right?) should last only 305 hours. That's total crap. New Holland is doing nothing to ensure that I go away happy. they offer no guarantee that it would not happen again.]]]

As for the link with the references to broken engines.. Why would people make that up? Why would they give specific fracture locations?

As for Messick saying that these things don't need reinforcements or whatever because they are CUT's not bulldozers, If I knew had to treat my New Holland like it was made of glass, I'd have never bought it. It's a tractor. I don't care that it's small. It should be TOUGH. Why even put a loader on a tractor if it can't handle it?

[[[I agree. You will notice that I used the term latent defect in my post.]]] I think there is also a design defect making your tractor at high risk in its intended use. Combine the two and look in the mirror. -- You will notice in all my posts on breakage subjects that I expect an item to perform its function without harming itself. I am not talking about abusive use, but about hard use. If used respectfully [as opposed to timidly], the design should handle all the horsepower, all the lift, all the push of the system for which it is designed. The only way to make it this way is for the customer to insist.
larry

 

[chatcher]

Then, I'd be shopping for a replacement tractor with some of the really good financing deals that are out there right now...

Although you didn't say it, I'm guessing the replacement might be a different color with a different dealer's sticker on it?