As Big As you can Buy

   / As Big As you can Buy #31  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( My first computer saved programs to cassette tape! )</font>

Mine, too. A Radio Shack "color computer" hooked to a 13" TV for a monitor, a portable cassette player, and a little printer than actually 4 tiny ball point pens and printed on a 4.5" roll of paper. I didn't buy one of the earliest models, by the time I bought mine, they were all the way up to 32k of memory. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif My first "hard drive" was a remote 5meg that cost $300 (reconditioned) and died after 6 months. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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MikePA

I agree that the way your questions were phrased is better. However an idea of how the machine(s) is(are) actually being used will still be helpful.

SethO
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #33  
<font color="blue"> My first printer was a 9-pin dot matrix, upper case letters only, was about 2'x'2'x1' tall, weighed about 150 pounds, and cost $1,500 new. My first computer saved programs to cassette tape! </font>

You didn't have a daisy wheel printer? Those were the predecessors of the dot matrix ones...

First computer - Commodore PET? That was my second - after the teletype, using 300 baud acoustic coupler modem to a System 38 mainframe. Loved the built in cassette tape - do you remember the jokes about playing "programs" over the radio, taping them, and then trying to load them on the computer? /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #34  
Anyone remember punching cards to be fed into the mainframe reader? You spend an hour or two doing that, drop off a 2" stack of cards, come back the next day, scoop up a wad of paper, read every line, and find out you transposed a couple commands. Start over. Near the end, we were using remote terminals to key in our programming, and getting answers in mere minutes! We took our books to the RT rooms, and studied in front of the terminals while waiting. Hi-Tek!

Because a few of us up here still think computers and smokeless powder are a passing fad, we held off until the 486's came out, then got a free 286, followed by a 486 (wheeeeee!) for $250 when everyone had to have a Pentium. Current machine is a 450 Mz AMD K6 Presario. Same deal with tractors and trucks...1979 & 1987, both purchased last year.

Rather than being a hijack, I think this actually relates pretty well to the question, whether the focus on the money or the work being done. My observation with home PC's is they need most of their capacity, either in terms of storage, memory, or proccessing speed, for games & surfing. How many of us manipulate huge databases at home, or even run CAD software? It's America, and we can afford it, so we buy big PC's, vehicles, and tractors. I don't want to start a fight, but why not stop by Home Depot and pick up a two-pack of MTD's instead of a BX, and stuff the remaining 6-8 grand in the market? 'Cause we want the orange one! Have at it, then, and no apologies. S'all relative with material things. My 27hp 4wd tractor cost $6500 with FEL and bush hog. It's bigger but cost about half, or less - I don't even know - than a BX.

As I've said in other posts, I got some real close scrutiny when looking at tractors, by the oddest inquisitors (say that 5X real fast). I've never piloted a sled bigger than 440cc ('cept for that one time in the 70's with the home made race sled test in the field.....never did find that belt). My inquisitors won't swing a leg over anything with less than 700cc. Walking through the parking lot to my '86 Pontiac ($550 with 30k miles 8 years ago), I pass by a cool $50-90k worth of pickups, depending on who I am relieving or vice versa, and that's usually just 3 vehicles. Then there's the Harleys, the four wheelers, the boats (sea-rototillers or rag flappers), and what about our houses?

I told the guys at work to think of it as my toy - that put an end to the hand-wringing. Guess I don't need to track usage or justify expense with a toy.

My philosphy is to stay a few years behind the pack, stick with proven technology, and scoop up the deals. I focus on bang for the buck and not just the bang. No thanks to Rbargeron and Rat, I'm currently having the sweats for L4850-5450 Kubotas. One of the main attractions is the strength and power for the price - and I'm only on 4 acres (bordering 200 which I also help on). It's a nice sickness, comparatively, and we don't want to be cured.

How many of you tried to say "oddest inquisitors" real fast?

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   / As Big As you can Buy #35  
knucklehead,

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( It's a nice sickness, comparatively, and we don't want to be cured. )</font>

Well said. Oh...and my first real programming experience was in FORTRAN using those punchcards. I think I still have some around. I was going to mention them, but I figured the real young whipper-snappers would think I'm pulling their leg! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

~Rick
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #36  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( My first "hard drive" was a remote 5meg that cost $300 (reconditioned) and died after 6 months. )</font>

Would that have been a winchester hdd?

Soundguy
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #37  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( My first "hard drive" was a remote 5meg that cost $300 (reconditioned) and died after 6 months. )</font>

I remember running a BBS on my c-64, using a 300baud modem..( data set back then ), 2 1541 drives.. and 2 of the 'big' 1 meg 5 1/4 floppies.. forget their number..sd1001?. Graduated to an 8088 then kept moving the BBS up from there... ( I still have it online on an old 486.. and still get callers from time to time...used to be multi line.. but now shares with my coputers dial out line... has been up since late 80's... )
Lets see what other old iron have I worked on.8inch flopies.. been there.. ( had that 8088 that had 1 full size 5 1/4 floppy, and had a port on the back of the card for an external floppy.. I made my own cable and hooked up that 8" floppy.. ran it using drvparam.... command... what a hoot.
Lets see.. had an old 8088 in 79 running cpm... fairly neat..
Did a bit of work on older wang mainframes
Hmm.. had a color printer used wax cartridges..... late 70's/early 80's
Had a timex sinclair.. used a b/w tv for monitor, used a microcasseete for storage, and had the 16K ram pack module for it... Z80 processor I think... whew.. dusty memories..
now 80 gig drives are 79 bucks on the internet from gateway computers...go figure..

Soundguy
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #38  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Would that have been a winchester hdd? )</font>

I had a Radio Shack TRS80, model IV, at the time, and a daisy wheel printer from Radio Shack and got the hard drive from the Radio Shack service center; don't remember whether it was their own brand or what. I went from the color computer to the model IV (which I kept at the office), to a Radio Shack laptop with just floppy drives and a little dot matrix printer (when we started traveling in the RV), then to a Radio Shack laptop with a 20 meg hard drive, then to an IBM desktop with Windows 3.1 (I later added a sound card and CD-ROM), then a second IBM with Windows 98 and a HP OfficeJet (forgot the model), and now a Dell Dimension 8100 with a HP OfficeJet G55 and a TrippLite Internet Office UPS.
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #39  
Well said, RanchMan.

I think another point SethO may be overlooking is that most people buy their tractors to save time and effort. In general, the bigger the tractor and implements, the more time you save (I recognize that this is not always the case). So what is the "right" size for one person will depend on what their personal "time vs cost" tradeoff is. Two people with identical land could easily end up with very different tractors.

Is the guy with little spare time who buys a bigger tractor making a mistake because he "underutilizes" it? I don't think so. I think he made the righ tchoice for his situation. For others, who may be more willing to spend the time than the extra money (or who perhaps use their seat time as a way to unwind after a stressful day), a smaller tractor may make sense for the same job.

I guess my point is, you can't pick tractor size ONLY from the job to be done. You have to consider the person's budget as well as his or her other goals/needs... is it a hobby that they enjoy spending time on, or a means to free up time to do something else, or a profession?

John Mc
 
   / As Big As you can Buy #40  
Can you share the details of your sprayer? I have a small orchard that I need to spray, and want to use my tractor 3PH to simply the task.
 

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