Coyote machine
Super Member
- Joined
- May 4, 2009
- Messages
- 7,641
- Location
- Southern VT
- Tractor
- 22 SANY SY 50U, '10 Kioti DK 40se/hst KL-401 FEL, loaded tires, KB-2485 bhoe, Tuffline TB160 BB, Woods QA forks, MIE Hydraulic bhoe thumb & ripper tooth, Igland 4001 winch, & GR-20 Log Grapple. Woods BBX72" Brush Mower. Diamondplate aluminum canopy
Dup post removed. Missed that had happened.
Excavators and dozers are not the same beast as a small to medium size tractor with attached hoe.
I did read Eddie's thread. And just because someone can do a task in a particular way does not mean encouraging others, especially those who lack experience working with chainsaws, tractor mounted hoes and trees is wise; even under the best of circumstances. There are way too many variables, and thus too many risks to mitigate.
I call it like I see it from over 50 years of working around equipment; the old type of drum chippers, 100' telescoping cranes mounted on tractor trailer beds, Stihl saws before chain brakes, safety chain, and the like. From the days of climbing with sharp spikes, no chaps, no helmets, no ear plugs or muffs.
Safest practices were always uppermost in the minds of the companies owners and crew; yet bad things happened more than anyone could prevent.
My point is to offer a view that is from a place that is different than a generic claim of; no one I know has said using a hoe to drop trees is unsafe. Professing ignorance about a potentially deadly outcome is sheer foolishness. Regardless of someone having written a book about the topic, that fact doesn't make it a safe method of felling trees for amateurs.
No need for disclaimers or safety warning labels, IF common sense were still in abundance. Evidently in the general population it is in very short supply.
TBN will move along just fine when the various sides of some serious issues are fully aired out rather than just receiving a cheering squad for completing a task in the most inane way possible.
It comes down to money too. Most DIY types do whatever to save a buck and for bragging rights to say, 'hey, look at what I did, and lived.' No tree crew for this 'ole boy. Got 'er done and lived to tell.
Tree work of any kind, limbing, climbing, felling, etc. all have associated risks; the wise person makes a decision to tackle any tree work by weighing risk and choosing whether to hire out the work to a pro or go it alone.
Excavators and dozers are not the same beast as a small to medium size tractor with attached hoe.
I did read Eddie's thread. And just because someone can do a task in a particular way does not mean encouraging others, especially those who lack experience working with chainsaws, tractor mounted hoes and trees is wise; even under the best of circumstances. There are way too many variables, and thus too many risks to mitigate.
I call it like I see it from over 50 years of working around equipment; the old type of drum chippers, 100' telescoping cranes mounted on tractor trailer beds, Stihl saws before chain brakes, safety chain, and the like. From the days of climbing with sharp spikes, no chaps, no helmets, no ear plugs or muffs.
Safest practices were always uppermost in the minds of the companies owners and crew; yet bad things happened more than anyone could prevent.
My point is to offer a view that is from a place that is different than a generic claim of; no one I know has said using a hoe to drop trees is unsafe. Professing ignorance about a potentially deadly outcome is sheer foolishness. Regardless of someone having written a book about the topic, that fact doesn't make it a safe method of felling trees for amateurs.
No need for disclaimers or safety warning labels, IF common sense were still in abundance. Evidently in the general population it is in very short supply.
TBN will move along just fine when the various sides of some serious issues are fully aired out rather than just receiving a cheering squad for completing a task in the most inane way possible.
It comes down to money too. Most DIY types do whatever to save a buck and for bragging rights to say, 'hey, look at what I did, and lived.' No tree crew for this 'ole boy. Got 'er done and lived to tell.
Tree work of any kind, limbing, climbing, felling, etc. all have associated risks; the wise person makes a decision to tackle any tree work by weighing risk and choosing whether to hire out the work to a pro or go it alone.
