Average GVWR

[Whatswrong]

I'm curious what the average GVWR is on a common go to town for nails ,work or ball game truck is now days .Based on my memory growing up if you have a utility trailer with a riding lawn mower on it you would be over weight based on the various trailering threads I see here .Seems to me they used to be rated at 5000-5500 and most weighed around 42-4700 lbs leaving 800 lbs cargo almost any milk cow weighed more than that or 4 butcher hogs.

 

[LD1]

I'm curious what the average GVWR is on a common go to town for nails ,work or ball game truck is now days .Based on my memory growing up if you have a utility trailer with a riding lawn mower on it you would be over weight based on the various trailering threads I see here .Seems to me they used to be rated at 5000-5500 and most weighed around 42-4700 lbs leaving 800 lbs cargo almost any milk cow weighed more than that or 4 butcher hogs.

I think most 1/2 tons now are in the 7000lb GVWR area and weigh in around 5500-6000lbs in 4x4 trim.

3/4 tons are in the 9000-9200gvwr range. Weight is between 6000 and 7000 in 4x4 I would guess. But alot of that depends on how many doors it has and what motor.

The 1-tons in DRW trim GVWR I would guess between 11k and 12.5k GVWR. And weight between 7k and 8k.

My 2005 dodge DRW Quad cab, long bed, diesel and 4x4 (the heavies combination) weighs between 7800-8000 when I weigh it. Just depends on how much fuel is in the tank and how many tools I have. It is an 11,200 GVWR.

PS: Why do you ask??

 

[Whatswrong]

I have been watching all the posts regarding not exceeding GVWR and trying to see if you stay within those spec how anyone could do any legal work without having a super duty or the equivallent to pull a small trailer ,our farm vehicles all were licenced at least a couple ton over the GVWR .I just went and looked at the tag on a pickup my SIL gave me and if I'm reading it correctly it has a load capacity of 928 lbs. It is about a 1990 Chev extenda cab 2 doors.
That would mean I couldn't fill the slip fuel tank in the back full without exceeding the factory spec. In comparision what does your license give you for legal loads .For example my grain truck is 20000 lb rate we were allowed a 27000 lb license if I remember correctly but there was no possible way to get enough weight to the front wheels to make the load on the rear axle legal.

 

[RandyT]

My 2011 ram 1500 4X4 has a GVWR of 6600, payload capacity 1320, GCWR of 15,500, and towing capacity of 10,250

 

[LD1]

I have been watching all the posts regarding not exceeding GVWR and trying to see if you stay within those spec how anyone could do any legal work without having a super duty or the equivallent to pull a small trailer ,our farm vehicles all were licenced at least a couple ton over the GVWR .I just went and looked at the tag on a pickup my SIL gave me and if I'm reading it correctly it has a load capacity of 928 lbs. It is about a 1990 Chev extenda cab 2 doors.
That would mean I couldn't fill the slip fuel tank in the back full without exceeding the factory spec. In comparision what does your license give you for legal loads .For example my grain truck is 20000 lb rate we were allowed a 27000 lb license if I remember correctly but there was no possible way to get enough weight to the front wheels to make the load on the rear axle legal.

Sounds like you need something a little bigger than a 23 year old 1/2 ton:thumbsup:

 

[Davestc29]

my f350 is 10k gvw and a gcvw of 20k, although been every where and it seems dot only cares about about axle wieght ratings, Ive been loaded up to the mid 20's and stopped and checked weighed and scrutinized and never had an issue as long as none of my axles have been over loaded they simply haven't written or mentioned anything to me before.

 

[jejeosborne]

Here is my sticker. 2011 f150 super crew 2wd. Tow capacity 11300 lbs.
7350 lbs gvwr
1835 lbs payload

 

[newbury]

And mine
2002 f350 CC 4x4 dually. Curb weight 7K per Ford specs, GVWR 11,500 Tow capacity 12,500 lbs. Thus about 4,500 lb payload (should I call it a two tone two ton?)

 

[JESSE1]

My '12 F-450 Pickup has a 13,300# GVWR, 33,000# GCWR.

 

[Gary Fowler]

How can you call an F450 a pickup? Isnt that more like a flatbed hauler or maybe configured for towing as in Wrecker.
Its getting at the far range of "pickup" with a one ton with dual wheel axles.

NOW all you big boys pour on the smoke if you like, but to me a pickup is 1/2-3/4 ton with 1 ton maybe depending on how it is set up maxing out what is to me a pickup. Pickup slang was just that a truck that you could haul (pickup) small loads on when you didnt need to hook up a trailer to a large truck to fetch small amounts of grain, fence post, wire or whatever for daily chores. They didnt haul tractors on them or horses(sometimes a couple of pigs) but mostly they were for running around in and taking care of daily chores and business, hauling in the groceries etc.
PS. a half ton pickup that is rated for hauling 980 lbs is pretty close to half ton last time I looked a ton was still 2000 pounds

 

[sea2summit]

How can you call an F450 a pickup? Isnt that more like a flatbed hauler or maybe configured for towing as in Wrecker.
Its getting at the far range of "pickup" with a one ton with dual wheel axles.

The F450 is out as a pickup and you can get it DRW or single. It is a beast as far as specs go and unless you park it right next to a 350 the average person wont see the difference. Their having some engine troubles though and I think the base price is over $50k.

 

[Todd727]

Ford's Towing Guides:

Ford Towing Guides | The Official Site of Ford Vehicles | Ford.com

 

[flusher]

My 2004 Isuzu NPR stakebed (8x14 ft Supreme bed) has 12,000 GVWR, 18,000 lb GCWR, weighs 7100 lb per the Petro truck scale (3/4 tank of gas, me and my usual truck tool kit). Has the 6L LQ4 GMC gas engine. 49,500 miles on the odometer when I bought it last year off eBay for $11K. That stakebed is a lot easier to load with pallets (seed, fertilizer, etc) than my old 2001 F150. And the wheel base and overlength of the NPR is about the same as that F150 short cab/long bed.

 

[JESSE1]

The F450 is out as a pickup and you can get it DRW or single. It is a beast as far as specs go and unless you park it right next to a 350 the average person wont see the difference. Their having some engine troubles though and I think the base price is over $50k.

The F-450 pickup is only available as a diesel 4x4 crewcab dually. Only gear ratio is a 4.30 and combined with 400 hp and 800 ft/lb torque it definately is a master tow vehicle. Fuel mileage is decent, have gotten as high as 17 mpg non-towing interstate driving. It also has a wide-track front axle that gives a very short turning radius. No major engine problems that I'm aware of.

 

[foreman Etexas]

2011-cummins GVWR 12,200

 

[Diamondpilot]

My 04 F-250 I just sold had 10,000# GVWR. It weighed 7,500# with me in it so it had a honest 2,500# payload.

My current 06 F-350 is SRW and has 11,500# GVWR. It weighs 7,600# with me in it and has a honest payload of 3,900#.

My 08 Nissan Titan has 7,200# GVWR. It weighs 5,860# with me in it so it has a honest 1,340#

All weights are with me in it, 3/4 tank of fuel, and my normal tools, straps, ect in the truck.

Chris

 

[Gary Fowler]

Looks like the only advantage the F450 has over the F350 is with a gooseneck otherwise same towing capacity and F350 has higher rear end ratio so maybe better gas mileage. I would think that the 4.30 rear end would cause you some serious engine RPM but sure ought to pull some load if you can keep diesel in it.

Maybe I didnt understand the tailgate height but the F150 looked to have a 4" span where as the 250-450 only 1" does that mean that is all it drops when loaded to the max. GOT to be rough riding, neck snapping, spine crunching etc.

 

[downslope]

Looks like the only advantage the F450 has over the F350 is with a gooseneck otherwise same towing capacity and F350 has higher rear end ratio so maybe better gas mileage. I would think that the 4.30 rear end would cause you some serious engine RPM but sure ought to pull some load if you can keep diesel in it.

Maybe I didnt understand the tailgate height but the F150 looked to have a 4" span where as the 250-450 only 1" does that mean that is all it drops when loaded to the max. GOT to be rough riding, neck snapping, spine crunching etc.

Tires are larger diameter on 450, might even out some of the axle ratio difference.

 

[downslope]

I'm curious what the average GVWR is on a common go to town for nails ,work or ball game truck is now days .Based on my memory growing up if you have a utility trailer with a riding lawn mower on it you would be over weight based on the various trailering threads I see here .Seems to me they used to be rated at 5000-5500 and most weighed around 42-4700 lbs leaving 800 lbs cargo almost any milk cow weighed more than that or 4 butcher hogs.

Most modern half-tons should be able to carry 2,000+ lbs if ordered with correct factory options. 1-ton SRW payload should run close to 4,000 lbs and 3/4 tons maybe a little less.

What is killing payload and fuel economy is that compared to 15-20 years ago I am seeing a lot more 4x4's and crew/extra cabs on the road. Both of these cut down on fuel economy and reduce max payload and combination weights in those type models.

 

[ericher69]

In my country/province your truck can have a capacity plate with 20k but the restriction will be on the class of license and sticker plate you purchased. You want to tow/carry more "legally" then pay more to the Ministry of Transport