B2630 50 Hours Service Time

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Kubota B-Series - Changing Oils and Filters

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PLEASE NOTE!!! There are 4 FOUR Hydro drains. The front trans one is not even shown or mentioned in the owners manual...This write up really saved me. I would have been extremely pi--ed off if I would of missed it. Just like I missed the #2 engine oil drain plug the 1st time I changed the oil :confused2: once again not mentioned in the manual:confused2::confused2::confused2:

And I also changed the hydro fluid at 58 hrs, Both filters, fuel, Front axel lube and the outer air filter. Seemed worth it for such an investment that I plan on keeping a long time. Its your tractors life blood.

 

[wdchyd]

I also changed it all at 55 hrs.....Peace of mind at the price of 4 gals of SUDT engine oil and all the filters.....

I made the decision when I saw the dark oil coming out.....

 

[davatk]

I went out and looked at the oil. You're right, not SUDT. I asked the associate for SUDT and he handed me the bucket. It stated that it meets Kubota UDT and Kubota Transhydraulic recommendations. Not the SUDT. Darn.

I stopped by TSC yesterday - they had the "Mystic JT-5" brand of fluid that said it was a replacment for Kubota SUDT on the label. However, for about $10 more I can get the SUDT from Coleman Equip - so probably best to go with the MFG recommendations for that minor difference in price.

 

[DmansPadge]

I did my 50 hour service recently and just went with Kubota oil. I was at the dealer getting the SUDT so I got the Kubota engine oil as well. I've always ran Mobil Delvac in my previous diesels. Plenty of good oils out there to choose from.

 

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I also changed it all at 55 hrs.....Peace of mind at the price of 4 gals of SUDT engine oil and all the filters.....

I made the decision when I saw the dark oil coming out.....

Wow! Is that your SUDT? Mine still looked clear?

 

[wdchyd]

Wow! Is that your SUDT? Mine still looked clear?

Yep that's SUDT at the 55 hr mark, but I did ride the Bota pretty hard digging stumps and logging out some.....There was a few times she was pretty hot......

 

[donn12]

I would be willing to bet that a very big chuck of new Kubotas (or any other brands) don't actually come with the manufacturers fluid. These things are shipped dry in crates and if the dealers are paying attention to the bottom line they buy oil and fluids in bulk drums or have them pumped into a storage tank.
That is fine with me because the manufacturers are not in the oil refinery business.
The only manufacturer/dealer that I have ever seen to try to counteract this is polaris. When they deliver the new atvs the oil has a dye in it so if it is not replaced with polaris oil they have a warranty out. As if polaris 0-20 is better than mobil 1 0-20!
Cars are obviously shipped with manufacturers oil so they can be driven on and off the delivery trucks but every one of them serviced by a dealer gets oil/etc from a supplier like chesapeake petroleum. The only people who actually get the original brand name fluid are the do it yourselfers. These people are paying a steep price for fluid marked up by a dealer (vs walmart) for fluid that was not made by the manufacturer anyway.

For my 25k set up I went to a dealer, bought SUDT and changed all the fluid and both filters at 50 hours. with all the sudt vs udt I was not clear on what a exact match was. I am not knocking doing this at all I am just pointing out that many tractors have fluid put in by the dealer and it might not be sudt or udt. and that exxon/mobil, chesapeake etc make all the fluids anyway.

 

[fredhargis]

I would be willing to bet that a very big chuck of new Kubotas (or any other brands) don't actually come with the manufacturers fluid.

Actually, I had quizzed about this recently in another post; whether the Kubotas arrive with fluid. Someone from Messicks commented they do indeed come with fluid in them, but the dealer may have to top it off from attachments like the FEL.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

I would be willing to bet that a very big chuck of new Kubotas (or any other brands) don't actually come with the manufacturers fluid. These things are shipped dry in crates .

Just how much would you be willing to bet that Kubotas arrive at the dealer without fluids?

 

[donn12]

JT - considering your numerous trips to Barlows for your numerous brand new tractors I would not be willing to wager much! I have seen them in crates and they look pretty bare . I would think they would have motor oil and not hydro but now that I have typed that don't know why.

 

[Kevinc2004]

I worked at a Ford/New Holland dealer some years ago and all of them came in the crates ready to run! They actually operated them, then finished putting the wheels etc in, closed the crate and shipped them. All we did was break into the crate, jack them up. Put on the wheels and drive them off!

 

[davatk]

Kubota B-Series - Changing Oils and Filters

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Well, did the maintenance today and although I finished it, I do have a couple questions for those who have done a B2630 or B3030. I never found a hydraulic fluid strainer to clean as referenced in the messicks guide - does the B2630 not have one ? The manual does not reference one. Also, the manual only references 3 trans fluid drain plugs - which I used, but I did not find the 4th plug as referenced in the messicks guide.

 

[bp fick]

Kinda hoping Messicks updates with info and how to's for the Bxx20 series as well as the Bxx30 series.:thumbsup:

 

[rglaser]

Well, did the maintenance today and although I finished it, I do have a couple questions for those who have done a B2630 or B3030. I never found a hydraulic fluid strainer to clean as referenced in the messicks guide - does the B2630 not have one ? The manual does not reference one. Also, the manual only references 3 trans fluid drain plugs - which I used, but I did not find the 4th plug as referenced in the messicks guide.

No strainer on B2630, has the second hydro filter instead. I too only found 3 hydro drain plugs.

-Rob

 

[nspec]

I can also vouch for there only being 3 drains for the hydro fluid. No strainer.

Short hydro filter = hydr. transmission (left side - faces left to right)
Long hydro filter = hydraulic system (right side - faces front to back)

 

[davatk]

Thanks guys. Always helps to get that extra bit of assurance that you did it right... :thumbsup:

 

[Scruffy1]

I have a B2620, I imagine they have to be very similar if not set up exactly the same. When my 50 hr came up I went to the dealer to get my supplies and asked for the SUDT fluid and he told me they don't even sell it. :confused2: He told me there is no added benefits with the SUDT over the UDT. He then said I didn't need to change my Hyd oil until 400 hrs (I think, I have to check my manual) but not at the 50 hr mark. He said if I had brought it to them to do the service I would not be getting my fluid changed only filters and when the fluid is replaced it is replaced ith UDT only. I agree with you all in the theory of changing the fluids, especially on a break in of a new tractor, but he said this is Kubota's maintenance plan. So I bought the filters and a quart of UDT to top off with at his suggestion and went on my way. When changing my Hyd filters, I always like to have my filters next to me ready to go. Seal wet for lubrication, rags handy and such. I unscrewed the filter on the left side and replaced it, no problems. But when I unscrewed the filter on the right side Hyd fluid came pouring out. By the time I got the new filter on which was pretty quick I lost about 2 to 3 quarts. I was pissed, I live 50 miles from the dealer, it was on a weekend, and we snow up to our ***. I needed my tractor to move snow. Had to go back on monday and I bought a couple gallons to have on hand.

So if anyone goes with Kubota's plan just have ample amount of fuild on hand because it will come pouring out at the 1 filter. Your probably better off just changing the oil with the filters. :thumbsup:

 

[TripleR]

I have a B2620, I imagine they have to be very similar if not set up exactly the same. When my 50 hr came up I went to the dealer to get my supplies and asked for the SUDT fluid and he told me they don't even sell it. :confused2: He told me there is no added benefits with the SUDT over the UDT. He then said I didn't need to change my Hyd oil until 400 hrs (I think, I have to check my manual) but not at the 50 hr mark. He said if I had brought it to them to do the service I would not be getting my fluid changed only filters and when the fluid is replaced it is replaced ith UDT only. I agree with you all in the theory of changing the fluids, especially on a break in of a new tractor, but he said this is Kubota's maintenance plan. So I bought the filters and a quart of UDT to top off with at his suggestion and went on my way. When changing my Hyd filters, I always like to have my filters next to me ready to go. Seal wet for lubrication, rags handy and such. I unscrewed the filter on the left side and replaced it, no problems. But when I unscrewed the filter on the right side Hyd fluid came pouring out. By the time I got the new filter on which was pretty quick I lost about 2 to 3 quarts. I was pissed, I live 50 miles from the dealer, it was on a weekend, and we snow up to our ***. I needed my tractor to move snow. Had to go back on monday and I bought a couple gallons to have on hand.

So if anyone goes with Kubota's plan just have ample amount of fuild on hand because it will come pouring out at the 1 filter. Your probably better off just changing the oil with the filters. :thumbsup:

Loss is going to vary from one tractor to the other and the individual doing the changing. When my son and I changed filters on our L5030, we lost less than a quart. We lost 5 gallons on the M8540 after the dealer said it could be done losing no more than a few quarts.

The manual on my L5030 indicates you drain the oil, change filters then put the oil back in; no thanks.

 

[tyler101]

Just finished doing my 50 hour service. All went well until I had to drain the oil. The cross member for the loader was installed backwards and the holes to let the oil drain through were on the wrong side. Other than that problem, all finished. Let the snow fly!

 

[Grateful11]

I also changed it all at 55 hrs.....Peace of mind at the price of 4 gals of SUDT engine oil and all the filters.....



I made the decision when I saw the dark oil coming out.....

Wow we have 1300hrs on our CaseIH 5140 and at 1000hrs. the hydraulic fluid still looked like new.