b3200 roll over tip over

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nra4ever

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So I rolled my 3200 over yesterday. did not have my belt on and i jumped off as it went over. first thing i did was to shut it off because it was still running. tried to get it back up with my rtv 500 and that was a no go. then tried with my honda pilot and still nothing. had to call a tow truck. in about 10 min or less and $120 later the b3200 was back up. $100 for the filp and $20 tip.

went to started it up and the engine was locked up tight. i had read before that if it wont turn over after a tip over then you have to take the glow plugs out. i never had a diesel before so i took out what looked like spark plugs on the top of the engine.

on mine there are 4 plugs on top that also carry the fuel. i removed the fuel line then took the plugs out. i made sure to keep everthing grouped together from the same cylinder. i figured why turn it by hand when i can just use the key. well i found out why.

when i cranked it with the key fuel shot all over the place. since the inside was already covered why stop so i kept giving it short cranks until it was dry. one thing to watch out for on this method is when i pulled the plugs there was still a copper washer and a little metal cup under it that was still in the hole. i did not pull them out because i figured there was no need. well the short cranks launched the copper washer and metal cups out of all the cylinders. took me a while to find them all.

once it was dry put it all back togther and still would not start. it would now turn over but would not start. turned out when i put the fuel line on i forgot to tighten the line on top of the plugs. once i tightened the lines up it started up.

i drove it over to the pavement to change the oil because the oil was way over full must have had fuel in with the oil. used a fram ph3593A. after the oil change it was back to work.

hope this can help the next person that has this problem.
 

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   / b3200 roll over tip over #2  
Wow .. That must of been scary
Thanks for letting us know how you got her going again :thumbsup:
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #3  
Boy, that's a brand new tractor judging from how clean the bottom is!

As the property appears pretty level, why did it roll?
 
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not the best camera angle. i was backing out of a valley with a full bucket. as i was backing up she slide sideways and i did not get the bucket down to try to stop the tip and she went over. it only has 40 hours on it. glad me and the tractor are both ok. i just looked on ebay and it seems that what i thought were glow plugs are infact fuel injectors. seems like i took the hard route. oh well.
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #5  
As long as you learned something from the incident, all is OK.

Glad you didn't get hurt, and tractor is OK.
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #6  
We sure are glad you are not hurt, and hopefully no more than just a little skinned paint on the tractor. I kinda figured by looking at that bucket position, it was up pretty high. For newbies reading this, when you move with something in the bucket, keep it low as possible, especially if you turn or a wheel drops in as little as a small depression in the ground, thats when the "fun" begins. I have raised one wheel myself by turning too fast on a bad angle with a load, even with the bucket held low. Loaded tires help, by putting weight down low, but nothing beats constant vigilance and keeping that bucket as close to the ground as you can get it.

James K0UA
 
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Talking to a tech at a local Kubota dealer this past week, he said start-ups after a roll-over are the number one problem with new Kubota's.....usually bending at least one pushrod/valve.....sometimes BIG Trouble......

Sounds like you dodged a bullet trying to restart WITHOUT pulling the injectors....:ashamed:
 
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Maybe Kubota can post this picture to show off the underside of there tractor its a great view of it. I sure hope I never get to see that side of my b3200. Glad you did not get hurt.
Rob
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #9  
nothing beats constant vigilance and keeping that bucket as close to the ground as you can get it.

+1 Had exactly the same thought. The ground in the photo is uneven enough to be a concern if the bucket were too high. Also, that backhoe boom raises the COG, so it's even more unstable. Don't want to be the safety police, but, nra, you know you dodged a big bullet this time. You were lucky to jump clear without getting hit by the FEL, the BH or the ROPS. From now on, wear the seatbelt and hang on. Too many - maybe most - of the farmers back in the day who tried jumping off didn't make it.

Glad all is well with nra and the new tractor.
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #10  
You know, if you want to check out the underside of your new tractor, I suggest just getting on a creeper and rolling underneath. :laughing:

Glad you weren't hurt. Accidents do happen, but these machines are fairly stable. I live on a mountain property, with more sloping land than flat, and have yet to even get a tire off the ground in 300 hours on this machine and another 50 on a couple of rentals on this property. May be because way back in my early 20's, I picked up the entire back end of a Yanmar 3 feet off the ground after picking up a boulder in the FEL that was apparently a bit too heavy. :eek:

Also, if you live on fairly level ground, I could see not having your guard up for all of your seat time the same way I have to living on hilly/sloping land.

As has been mentioned, keep your bucket, both loaded AND unloaded, as low to the ground as possible given the conditions, as that is what will cause a tipover more than most anything else. If you have to raise the bucket high to clear an obstacle, do it nice and slow and then drop the bucket as soon as you clear the obstacle.

I'm sure you've learned your lesson and should have many years of "butt-pucker free" tractoring ahead. ;)
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #12  
Dang - that's scary to think of! Novice here, but wouldn't something like that damage the FEL? Did you check to see if it was still lined up properly and working OK?
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #13  
That is scary to say the least. It can happen fast and like others have said, keep that FEL as low as possible. Glad you're okay and hope the tractor didn't take too much of a hit.
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #15  
youch!

as others have said keep the front bucket low to ground as possible. so "center of gravity" COG is kept low within the tractor.

as much as i love the backhoe on the 555c. there been times were i have extended it out and kept it low to the ground. granted it felt like i was a dog with a big heavy tail on the rear end. but it sure helped in those couple times i needed lower center of gravity to get over a couple tight hills. granted it took 3 times longer to do what i needed to do. as i did the 360 degree neck twisting to make sure the backhoe didn't hit anything. but *shrugs*
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #16  
youch!

as others have said keep the front bucket low to ground as possible. so "center of gravity" COG is kept low within the tractor.

as much as i love the backhoe on the 555c. there been times were i have extended it out and kept it low to the ground. granted it felt like i was a dog with a big heavy tail on the rear end. but it sure helped in those couple times i needed lower center of gravity to get over a couple tight hills. granted it took 3 times longer to do what i needed to do. as i did the 360 degree neck twisting to make sure the backhoe didn't hit anything. but *shrugs*

I was doing this last summer while negotiating in the woods.....I had the BH stretched out flat, swung to one side.....I jumped in the drivers seat to move forward a couple of feet and the entire tractor steadily listed over to the opposite side......in panic/Oh $h1T mode, I turned the tractor off when it was about 80 degrees over....

A 1" sapling snagged on to a control lever when traveling forward (the one to extend out the boom cyl).....hence the tractor leaned over pretty good.....

After yelps/hollers to the next door neighbor, we righted the bugger back up restarting tractor and using the hydraulics to bring it back......

Spooky to say the least.......mine didn't suffer like the OP'r, but a close one for sure.....

A constant reminder that machines/hydraulics/gravity has a mind of it's own sometimes.....Be Careful......:thumbsup:
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #17  
I was doing this last summer while negotiating in the woods.....I had the BH stretched out flat, swung to one side.....I jumped in the drivers seat to move forward a couple of feet and the entire tractor steadily listed over to the opposite side......in panic/Oh $h1T mode, I turned the tractor off when it was about 80 degrees over....

A 1" sapling snagged on to a control lever when traveling forward (the one to extend out the boom cyl).....hence the tractor leaned over pretty good.....

After yelps/hollers to the next door neighbor, we righted the bugger back up restarting tractor and using the hydraulics to bring it back......

Spooky to say the least.......mine didn't suffer like the OP'r, but a close one for sure.....

A constant reminder that machines/hydraulics/gravity has a mind of it's own sometimes.....Be Careful......:thumbsup:

:shocked::laughing: always when ya least expect it. even when ya think ya got everything taken care of to. needless to say i have learned to go slow via "learning the hard way"
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #18  
Now and then, when I'm not sure of stability on a side-slope, I'll reach behind me and pull a stabilizer lever to get the downhill stab out pretty close to the ground, just in case......and then I go real slow to make sure I'm not gonna hit the ground or a tree or anything else with that stick-out stab.....it's just out there as a last resort in case, until I feel that I'm not in possible rollover territory.

.....and the other thing I do is swing the hoe all the way over to the uphill side to keep more weight on the uphill....sometimes lowering the boom and extending the stick and uncurling the bucket....

So far so good.....got some serious slopes and uneven ground by me....and going slow sure takes a lot less time away from your day than the time involved in winching the tractor back upright after a spill.......and safer too.....for machine and me.
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #19  
Now and then, when I'm not sure of stability on a side-slope, I'll reach behind me and pull a stabilizer lever to get the downhill stab out pretty close to the ground, just in case......and then I go real slow to make sure I'm not gonna hit the ground or a tree or anything else with that stick-out stab.....it's just out there as a last resort in case, until I feel that I'm not in possible rollover territory.

.....and the other thing I do is swing the hoe all the way over to the uphill side to keep more weight on the uphill....sometimes lowering the boom and extending the stick and uncurling the bucket....

I've done all of that myself on some of my slopes.
 
   / b3200 roll over tip over #20  
poor stabilizers :laughing: when i look down at them, thinking i am a fool to the neighbors. and then having to work front loader bucket, backhoe and stabilizers including differential lock, gas peddle, and left and right rear peddles, to get unstuck from the mud. now that is embarrassing.

i felt like some sort of octopus, operating a transformer at times. its fun, till ya have to repeat it enough times to drag your rear end 40 feet to get unstuck. and wasted an hour doing so. *rubs chin* i guess i can't help being a kid in the bigger sand box.

but when ya doing it, ya'all thinking. Oh no you don't be tipping over on me into a roll over. as ya stab the dirt with a stabilizer, backhoe, or front bucket.

then ya get them few moments when the front tires and front bucket start to slowly creep up off the ground. and the rear end starts to slide on ya.

it is an adrenalin rush for sure. but trying to avoid them can be harder than it seems at times *doh* learning your limits and tractor limits can be a rough battle. hopefully without a roll over to learn them.
 

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