B7610 and B2410 differences?

WiJC · Jan 30, 2004

these 2 tractors appear to have quite a bit in common, but price is quite a bit different.

what are the main differences that make up the price differences?

thanks
John

MadDog · Jan 30, 2004

Same engine, same frame, mostly same hydraulics, I believe. 2410 has both front and rear hydraulic outlets; 7610 only front. 2410 has position control for 3ph; 7610 has quarter inching valve instead. 2410 has about 240# greater lifting capacity 24" behind LP. 7610 has slightly shorter turning radius, but 2410 has accelerated turn power steering feature and weighs about 100# more. Minor differences in fuel tank and transmission case size. I think that about covers it.

I'm still torn between that size and the B7800 (significantly greater HP and hydraulics power and reinforced frame) for about $2000+ more) but if I go for the smaller model, I'll opt for the 7610 because I don't think the additional features are worth the price.

KubotaSteve · Jan 30, 2004

I was in the same boat as you Maddog. I was stuck between the 7500 and the 7800. I went with the 7800 and I am so glad that I did. I like the extra size and HP. The ground clearance is awesome as well. I had a 7200 before the 7800 and was afraid the 7800 would be too big, but it has turned out to be the perfect size and what I was looking for. It is large enough to tackle tough projects yet nimble enough to get around and not damage the yard.

MadDog · Jan 30, 2004

Thanks, KS. Unlike the differences between the 2410 and 7610, I am convinced the differences between the 7610 and 7800 ARE worth the price. Main issue is whether my OPE shed will accomodate the 7800 with the FEL. If I would have to detach the FEL to garage, how much of a job is that to do each time??

BTW, sorry to hijack your thread, John, however I think that I have already given you the info you were looking for.

frank_f15 · Jan 30, 2004

( If I would have to detach the FEL to garage, how much of a job is that to do each time??

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not that much of a job , but do u think u want to do that every time u park the tractor in the garage?

Henro · Jan 30, 2004

MadDog wonders:

 If I would have to detach the FEL to garage, how much of a job is that to do each time??


Frank replies:

 not that much of a job , but do u think u want to do that every time u park the tractor in the garage?


And I add:

I am sure you don't want to take the loader bucket off each time you park the tractor in the garage. Nope...you don't want to do that. That means each time you use your tractor you have to put the loader bucket on, and take it back off...would be a real pain...

I think I remember someone here cutting a hole in the back of his garage, letting a bit of the loader stick out, so he could close the doors... /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Guess that is thinking outside of the box... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Inspector507 · Jan 30, 2004

Or at least thinking through the hole in the back of the box..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

MadDog · Jan 30, 2004

It's surely thinking outside the box of sanity, Henro. I've asked my dealer to give me an accurate figure on the length of the B7800 with FEL, from which I should be able to determine whether it will park OK. The problem is that my shed is 7x14'4", inside footprint, but the 6' sliding door is on one end of one of the long walls, so I would have to back in and cut sharply to get the FEL in w/out hitting the front wall.

W/ a 6.75' turning radius, I figure I am probably OK if the length is at least 1' less than the length of the shed.
Any tighter and I'd either have to remove the FEL or build another shed. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I do realy prefer the 7800, though. And using a 7.5' hoe on a 7610 may put too much stress on it.... But then, again, maybe not....

rbarker · Jan 30, 2004

( The problem is that my shed is 7x14'4", inside footprint, but the 6' sliding door is on one end of one of the long walls, so I would have to back in and cut sharply to get the FEL in w/out hitting the front wall.

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I don't see that happening at all. The tractor with loader has got to be better than 12 feet long. Heck, my little BX is about 11 1/2 feet with loader attached. Add a back blade and there isn't a bunch of room left in my 16 foot long Cover-it shed.

rdam · Jan 30, 2004

I built a 24'x24' barn to hold my L3830 with loader and 6 foot bush hog...Surely that's enough room...right?

It's enough...barely. With the loader 3 inches from one wall, I have to turn the bush hog tail wheel sideways to get the roll down door closed !!! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Needless to say, the loader added on a few more inches than I anticipated.

You better measure before you commit.

ronjhall · Jan 31, 2004

MadDog
Without a 3PH attachment on a B7800 with FEL the length is 13' 4". That would be a tight fit for your barn if you have to make a turn. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Here is a thread on B7800 length. Click Here

Rodney · Jan 31, 2004

A nice option the B2410 has that the B7800 doesn't is the ability to widen the stance of the rear tires for stability on slopes. I expect this is the same on the 7610 but don't know for sure. I went with the 2410 because it sets a little lower than the 7800 providing better stability. Nice to have front weights on when using a heavy 3pt implement like a brushog.

Dave___in___CT · Jan 31, 2004

MadDog...

Time for a new tractor building... or addition... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

...you'll likely have implements to store too... and the backhoe... and the other OPE stuff you probably already have...

I wouldn't decide on a tractor model based on the shed size...
...how's the shed's door height for the tractor ?

A portable shelter is a good option too... not that costly... goes up in a day or 2... this is the way I went...

Good luck...

Dave...

surfran · Jan 31, 2004

If the length isn't too long for the overall shed, I would look at putting a new door so I could just pull in and then back out. That is what I did with my current shed a few years ago to accommodate my old Cub 1811. Of course now the shed isn't big enough for my BX1800 so I need to expand it this year. Don't like having it sitting under the King Canopy this Winter (of course I like scraping the vehicles even less so it was booted from the garage it had all summer/fall). /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

MadDog · Jan 31, 2004

Thanks for the data, Guys. Jury's still out on this one. I think I'll take a run up to the dealer's, lay out my shed dimensions on his lot, and see whether it will work. If not, I suppse I could do worse than end up with the 7610.

Henro · Jan 31, 2004

I went with the 2410 because it sets a little lower than the 7800 providing better stability. 

This may or may not be true...

I don't know myself. If a tractor is a little higher AND a little wider, then it is possible that it is as stable, on a cross-slope, as one that is lower AND narrower...

Too bad tractor builders don't publish some kid or theoretical tip angle for comparison purposes...

Rodney · Jan 31, 2004

Henro, I agree with you, but you can make the B2410 rear tires quite wide due to the 6 sided axle the rim fastens to.

Rod

del · Jan 31, 2004

Would of course depend on your garage, yard setup, etc etc,
some would NEVER do this, but when I built a 28x24 addition
on to my shop I made a bubble out the back so my car trailer
could be put inside when I want.

Just a square projection, 2x10feet wide horizontal versus the vertical
fireplace extension you sometimes see. Faces the woods so
doesn't look "funny".

After the fact you have to put in a header like you are
putting in a window so the studs have something to sit on.

Depending on your siding, you could remove and keep the
section for installation later when/if you sell the house.

That's assuming you have sheet siding like T-111 or something.

Otherwise it becomes expensive and hard to retrofit backwards
and have it look good.

Ten years from now your tractor will be in much better shape
if it is stored inside.

/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gifDE L/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

MadDog · Feb 1, 2004

No question about that, Del. Of course, I could always build a pole barn to house it. Then I could up-size it a bit, just in case I eventually want something bigger than the7800. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Building the OPE shed was so much fun that I wouldn't mind another similar project anyway.

Another outbuilding??? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif .... LOML would just about go ballistic.... /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

But other than insisting I'm nuts /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif, she wouldn't put up too much of a fight.