can anyone help just bought used B8200 HST, when I drive around everything seems fine, but any little incline I need to put it in low range, I tried getting a bucket load of dirt with the loader it just stop tires don't spin, it seems like transmisson is not holding pressure, is there some kind of blow by value???? fluid seems to be at the high mark, I see there is 3 place's to add fluid but only see one place to check.... any idea's would be greatly appreciated.
b8200 hst no power
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Von
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Mud, What range do you have the trans. in? and at what RPM's are you running? With HST the faster and more you push down on the petal the more drag on the motor. Try feathering the petal pressure, or let up some when it starts to drag, and use a lower range on the trans. Most work will be done in mid range and some in low. High is more for transporting the tractor to spot A from B at a faster pace.
allmobile
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Sounds like the clutch has gone out to me. The easiest way to tell is to engage the PTO, if it stops spinning when the tractor stops moving the clutch is the problem. If the PTO still spins then it is a HST problem. Hope that helps.
Brian
Brian
Von
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Well I'm no expert, but the next thing that I would try is to change the fluid and filter, and clean out both of the inline screens. Some people have had there hydro problems clear up by doing this. Good luck with it.
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I don't think you have a problem. In high range my New Holland will bog down on a "slight" incline unless I am running at high rpm. Medium incline & up, I need low range.
Low range is like 1st gear in an underpowered econobox 5 speed. High range is more like skipping to 4th.
Low range is like 1st gear in an underpowered econobox 5 speed. High range is more like skipping to 4th.
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Turfman
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I hope this in not like the B9200 I bought last year. Same issue. Took it to the dealer and the clutch was replaced, that helped, but the problem was the wear plates in the transmission. After the clutch replacement I could drive the thing around, but had to let it set and cool down before I could get it on the trailer to take it to the dealer trade it in on a new B2710. They looked into a new tranny and were talking about $4,000, but there were none in the US at the time. I just got rid of it and still have bad dreams about purchasing a nice used tractor that won't even transport itself on pavement in high gear. What a nightmare. I hope your's is a much simplier problem.
Best of luck with it.
Turfman
Best of luck with it.
Turfman
RobertN
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My B8200 doesn't pull hi-range very well on a hill. Mid range or low-range is fine. Even with lower traction turf tires, I can stall the tractor before the tires spin; it is only a 19hp after all. Also, I believe the B8200 is heavier than other 19hp tractors; the tractor alone is 1590lbs. The BF300 loader for a B8200 is 617lbs. A scraper has to be at least 300lbs. You've got a 19hp motor pushing around 2500lbs before you even try to load or scrape something.
The first thing I would do is check, and probably just for good measure replace, the hydraulic fluid. At the same time, replace the filters and clean the screens.
Next I would make sure the air filter, dust cup, and radiator "screen shield" are clean. If it is getting hot, you may be losing power. The book says the radiator screen should be cleaned every 5 hours, the dust cup every day if used in dusty conditions. I have noticed a power loss because of a dirty radiator screen.....
Then... Check, clean, and/or replace the fuel filter.
Another thing to try is draining the tank and running some fresh, known clean diesel in it. Maybe you got some funky fuel.
Make sure you push the "cut-out" knob ALL the way back in, making certian that it seats all the way. I have fired mine up with the knob out just a tiney bit. There was no power at all. Make sure the compression release is completely closed too.
How is your exhaust? Is it blowing lots of black smoke? You may need the injectors cleaned.
Here is info directly from the owners manual:
1) Air Cleaner and/or Fuel filter is dirty - Clean and/or replace element every 100-200 hours
2) Carbon around orrifice of nozzle piece - clean orifice and needle valve. Check nozzle; replace if necessary
3) Compression is insufficient - Bad valve and excessive wear of rings cause insufficient compression(note: Niether the owners manual nor the Service manual offer any engine specs, tear down info, ect)
4) Fuel is insufficeint - Check fuel system
5) Overheating of part - Check lube system. Check to see if lube filter is working. Filter screens deposited with impurities; clean screens. Check bearing clearances. Check engine timing.
6) Valves out of adjustment; adjust to proper valve clearance
7) Fuel pressurse is wrong; adjust to proper pressure, see Kubota dealer.
The first thing I would do is check, and probably just for good measure replace, the hydraulic fluid. At the same time, replace the filters and clean the screens.
Next I would make sure the air filter, dust cup, and radiator "screen shield" are clean. If it is getting hot, you may be losing power. The book says the radiator screen should be cleaned every 5 hours, the dust cup every day if used in dusty conditions. I have noticed a power loss because of a dirty radiator screen.....
Then... Check, clean, and/or replace the fuel filter.
Another thing to try is draining the tank and running some fresh, known clean diesel in it. Maybe you got some funky fuel.
Make sure you push the "cut-out" knob ALL the way back in, making certian that it seats all the way. I have fired mine up with the knob out just a tiney bit. There was no power at all. Make sure the compression release is completely closed too.
How is your exhaust? Is it blowing lots of black smoke? You may need the injectors cleaned.
Here is info directly from the owners manual:
1) Air Cleaner and/or Fuel filter is dirty - Clean and/or replace element every 100-200 hours
2) Carbon around orrifice of nozzle piece - clean orifice and needle valve. Check nozzle; replace if necessary
3) Compression is insufficient - Bad valve and excessive wear of rings cause insufficient compression(note: Niether the owners manual nor the Service manual offer any engine specs, tear down info, ect)
4) Fuel is insufficeint - Check fuel system
5) Overheating of part - Check lube system. Check to see if lube filter is working. Filter screens deposited with impurities; clean screens. Check bearing clearances. Check engine timing.
6) Valves out of adjustment; adjust to proper valve clearance
7) Fuel pressurse is wrong; adjust to proper pressure, see Kubota dealer.
