Backhoe L4600

[hobonc]

I have a inch for a Hoe for my L4600. I am looking at a ANSUNG MODEL : BK440 the price is $5200. A Bota Hoe is $8900,,, At $3700 difference the ANSUNG : BK440 looks inviting. I have never owned a Hoe are ran a Hoe I would like to dig stumps on my property. I would like opinions on these and the difference I may see in operating them.

This what I see on the specs
Bota weight 1953 lbs
ANSUNG 1300 lbs

Dipper stick digging force
Bota 3968 lbs
ANSUNG 3080 lbs

digging force using bucket cyl
bota 5906
No spec for ANSUNG

L Series

 

[Fallon]

Make sure your hoe attaches to a subframe that is attached to a significant portion of the frame. If its only connected to the 3pt, you are going to break things.

The Kubota is going to require a subframe, which is probably included in that price.

 

[Tompet]

Which Kubota BH is your reference? By the bucket curl of 5906 it sounds like the Kubota BH92 rather than the BH77. The Ansung you reference sounds closer to the Kubota BH77.
I am just asking if the comparison is an equivalent. $3700 is a difference. I looked at the Ansung site and it wasn't real clear on a couple of specs and with the subframe they look ok in photos, but have you seen them in person? I think you will enjoy having a BH, just take your time comparing models so you are aware of small differences that may make a difference for your use.

I would think someone on the forum would have an Ansung BH, I know I have read threads concerning their loaders. Don't they manufacture some attachments for other manufacturers?

Did you look at any other aftermarket BH's for your Kubota?

 

[rustyshakelford]

My opinion is paint all the stumps you want removed, and hire a stump grinder or rent a little track hoe. Otherwise it seems like a bunch of money to spend for something that might not be used very often.

Brett

 

[hobonc]

I will have to call him to nail down the model he did had me a pamphlet and the BT100 is the only one that will fit my yractor by the info he gave me... He also sells the ANSUNG and has one mounted to a smaller bota (the first one he has tried). I have looked at a Woods but not priced one... There is a Woods Backhoe BH90-X on the local craigslist but the dealer said the frame would not fit my tractor...
Woods Backhoe Attachment

 

[hobonc]

And you may win the cigar ... I called a bud that has a JD110 TLB he said come and get it and give it a go... He predicts it would take him (experienced) 40 hr to dig what I have ready at this time... He said a real track hoe would do the job in about 1 1/2 days TOPS.... BTW 90% are pine stumps in the 18 to 6" range.... I have the cash to buy a hoe are hire it done I also think I would enjoy doing it my issue is do I have the time.... It took me 6/7 years to cut and clear the brush working maybe 7 days a year at it... Winter project and wife went thru cancer/stroke issues that took her life... I own a Garage my real money is in the shop but I am nearing retirement and enjoy getting back outside and playing on the tractor... So it just a big boys toy what can I say..

 

[Fallon]

I didn't buy a tractor because I needed fields mowed, plowed or dirt moved. I bought a tractor because I wanted a dam tractor. Well actually I wanted cool big boy toys like a dozer, trackhoe, skidsteer or what not. I ended up with a tractor because it was the easiest to justify & perform required jobs.

Personally I'm likely to find an old used mini-excavator in the $10-15k range before I get a hoe for my tractor.

If you get enjoyment out of playing on your equipment and/or doing your own projects, by all means do it even if the economics don't always add up. Even there, you can usually resell your gear when you are done with it for a substantial part of what you paid for it if you treat it well & aren't using it commercially.

 

[Sammy3700]

hobonc are you the gentleman that used to have the 8ns just outside Sanford?

 

[IslandTractor]

Duplicate

 

[IslandTractor]

I will have to call him to nail down the model he did had me a pamphlet and the BT100 is the only one that will fit my yractor by the info he gave me... He also sells the ANSUNG and has one mounted to a smaller bota (the first one he has tried). I have looked at a Woods but not priced one... There is a Woods Backhoe BH90-X on the local craigslist but the dealer said the frame would not fit my tractor... Woods Backhoe Attachment

You could modify the subframe to fit or buy the correct subframe from Woods. I have the BH90x and it is a very strong BH.

 

[hobonc]

hobonc are you the gentleman that used to have the 8ns just outside Sanford?

Yes, are you the guy I sold a Sherman and some tires too...

 

[Sammy3700]

You are correct I finally saw the light and got a Kubota. Only have one 8n left and it has the Sherman and duals. In my opinion that backhoe would work on your tractor as far as size however you would have to get a different subframe from woods. I bought a woods 7500 for my L3700. Now I have to get a subframe kit.

 

[David Devuono]

Also check into Hydraulic connections. The Kubota BH may come with the parts while the aftermarket unit may cause you to pay another thousand for remotes. Even better if the aftermarket Hoe uses the PTO to power its own backhoe.

 

[Wayne64SS]

As an owner of BH92 you certainly aren't going to be happy with any less power.... at any price...

 

[NoNewParts]

Hey Hobo

Get out the calculator to find the ratio of the differences in specs and then
apply that to the prices.
To find out the real difference in price.

Will that backhoe subframe match up to the Kubota loader frame OK?

If you remember my posts on the other board, I did a lot of the same soul-searching when I was considering a backhoe for my old Kubota.
Couple things I found.
Hidden costs sometimes brings the difference closer.
That company may be fine, but I stopped in a local shop once when they were putting a new offbrand backhoe on a newer JD.
I can't remember the brand, but it was junk....$5k junk.
You know your stuff. Machinery is machinery. Check it carefully before you decide.

as you know, I decided on the Kubota BH77 for my B, and decided to attach it to a new tractor at the same time. LOL.
Front to rear......for the next couple of years...any problem anywhere is THEIR problem.
I trust my local dealer, but if I break it in two, I don't trust the suit and ties at corporate that would be looking for somebody/anything to blame.
All Kubota....All their problem
good luck

 

[FatTire]

For what its worth, I agree with Wayne 64SS above. I have the BH92 on a MX5100 which I believe is in a similar size range with your L4600. I would not be happy with any less capability, based on my own use (trenching, removing rock).

 

[wmonroe]

Add in another happy BH92 owner, it has done everything I've asked of it so far but like the others have said I wouldn't want less power.

 

[TexasBoy]

I wish I had the extra scratch, Id love to have a BH92 !

 

[IslandTractor]

Add in another happy BH92 owner, it has done everything I've asked of it so far but like the others have said I wouldn't want less power.

I've had a six foot BH and a nine footer. While there is little down which is more capable, I would still point out that if the budget is limited that a small BH is WAY more useful than no BH. It takes longer to dig out a stump but even a BX25 can dig out big stumps. Most trenches and digging projects don't require full nine foot depth so the extra reach of bigger BHs is an efficiency benefit but not absolutely necessary feature.

 

[rbargeron]

I have an 11 foot Kub (Bradco) backhoe - big as CUT hoes go, but it is still not big enough to dig out 18" white pine stumps easily. Best tool for it is a commercial TLB with size and grunt enough to reach behind the stump, breaking off the roots underground. It's fast, and what rolls out is a reasonable size for burying.