Backhoe on a cab tractor

[Dishpointer]

I am going to get either the L5030 or the M 5040 cab tractor and was wondering if a backhoe could be mounted on it? I read in my Kubota brochure that you couldn't but I have seen a few users here that have. What am I missing. Do I have to get a Bushhog or Rhino brand? I understand that there has to be at least 10" clearance from the boom to the cab but will it work and is it doable?

Thanks

 

[texbaylea]

Check on the Woods backhoes. I understand that they can be installed on a Kubota Grand L cab tractor. There is an extension bracket that provides the necessary clearance as it was explained to me.

Vernon

 

[AB4D]

As noted by Vernon, Woods makes a series of backhoes that will fit on Grand L Kubota's with factory cabs.

Jim

 

[RFB]

Here is our 5030HSTC with the Rhino 85 BH with subframe mount (with "Household 6" in command). The Rhino subframe system is substantial in terms of strength, yet is is an easy on/off process: Disconnect two linch pins, lower the stabilizer legs, pull out 6 inches, disconnect hydro lines and drive away.

The hydro lines on the Rhino are well-routed for protection, (and it is pretty easy to but a thumb on the BH without welding...see these posts: http://snipurl.com/qda9 http://snipurl.com/qdae

I had to "instruct" my Kubota dealer on the "availability" of the Rhino for use on cab models, but other than that, it was a painless install (for them). Rhino will paint it Kubota orange when it is ordered.

I have had to call Rhino for a few questions (no problems, just acquiring knowledge), and they have been courteous and 100% helpful and supportive.

I hope this helps your decision.

P.S. (I have heard that the Woods product is good and so this is not a slam to the Woods model.)

 

[Dishpointer]

Thanks guys. This info will help ease my worries. Would I need a subframe kit if I purchased the stronger M5040 and would you get the PTO pump or just use the rear remotes?

I haven't bought the tractor yet but will eventually want a BH. I wish I could get it when I purchase the tractor but it will have to wait a year or so until my wife forgets about the $30K price tag.

Thanks again

 

[RFB]

The Rhino 85 comes with either a direct quick-connect (via hoses) to your existing hydro block (you do not need remotes if you do not have them), or with an onboard PTO pump. Per Rhino, the direct connect provides a better hydro response.

Based upon my research, I would stay away from a 3 point mount and only use the sub-frame for whatever brand you choose. The Rhino sub-frame (I do not know about the Woods setup) is about as easy as a receiver hitch to connect and disconnect, and yet it is substantially engineered and constructed.

 

[kingoflawns]

When i purchased my tractor last october ( B3030 HSDC) the dealer told me they could mount up a kubota backhoe with some tweeking, sounded a little questionable to me.

 

[GeneD14]

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Are you reffering to the hydro block that has 4 quick-connects to feed the loader.
I guess I'm asking if you are un-plugging your loader or if you can still operate the loader? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[RFB]

"Are you reffering to the hydro block that has 4 quick-connects to feed the loader."

No, I am referring to the hydro block where power beyond is ported. Hoses from the BH (with quick coneects) are routed
over the rear axle to quick connects at the block; 30 seconds on and off without the cost of rear remotes, which I do not need.

The loader is still fully functional at all times.

 

[GeneD14]

That sounds great. I am going to check out my L4330 to see if I can do the same. Thanks!!

 

[wushaw]

Bradco is also another brand to look at.
A buddy of mine has a L4330 with cab and a Bradco with subframe... so this givs ya three manufactures to decide from.

 

[5030]

Lets see:

You have Woods, Bradco and Bush Hog that all make hoes to fit. If you buy a large frame tractor as in the "M" series, you shouldn't need a subframe as the frames and cases are substantially heavier than the L series units.

My last tractor, a 5030 HSTC required a subframe for the FEL whereas the M9000 I presently have has no subframe for the loader. That tells me that frame wise, the M's are able to handle the stress of the loader and should be able to handle a 3ph mounted hoe with no problems.

Personally, whatever way I went, I'd get the pto driven pump and holding tank for the hoe. That way, the hoe is completely seperate from the tractor hydraulic system and any problem with the hoe's hydraulic system like a ruptured hose won't drain the tractor's hydraulic system. You can also use a cheaper AW hydraulic fluid in the hoe as opposed to say SUDT that's in the tractor.

 

[DDT]

I have a woods 9000 for my 5030/cab model, but I did get extensions for it. works great. I did get the PTO pump for the hoe (I had no choice) I just wish I have a 1000RPM pump to idel the tractor down while hoeing around. It would be a lot quiter

 

[DDT]

I have a woods 9000 for my 5030/cab model, but I did get extensions for it. works great. I did get the PTO pump for the hoe (I had no choice) I just wish I have a 1000RPM pump to idel the tractor down while hoeing around. It would be a lot quiter

 

[Dishpointer]

Thanks for the advice guys. I know the "M" series tractors have a beefier frame than the "L" series I just didn't know if it would work with a cab and if there was enough room to operater the BH. This sure is a big relief to know that it will work. I guess I just have to decide on which BH I want and add get it ordered.

Thanks

 

[Dishpointer]

Thanks for the advice guys. I know the "M" series tractors have a beefier frame than the "L" series I just didn't know if it would work with a cab and if there was enough room to operater the BH. This sure is a big relief to know that it will work. I guess I just have to decide on which BH I want and add get it ordered.

Thanks

 

[Jay4200]

I have a Woods 9000 backhoe on my L4200 - it is on a subframe mount that HAS to leave enough room for a cab. It's hanging way out back there....see?

Jay

 

[Jay4200]

I have a Woods 9000 backhoe on my L4200 - it is on a subframe mount that HAS to leave enough room for a cab. It's hanging way out back there....see?

Jay