Barndominium/Shop or "real" House?

   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #581  
Impressive. How will you heat the water that goes through the PEX? or will you use something other than water?
 
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Impressive. How will you heat the water that goes through the PEX? or will you use something other than water?
It will be what is called a combi-boiler. It heats water for the hydronic heat as well as domestic water.

 
   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #583  
Is that powered by natural gas? Did you get natural gas to your house? I think I remember their being some question if that would happen or not.
 
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Is that powered by natural gas? Did you get natural gas to your house? I think I remember their being some question if that would happen or not.
Yes. I have natural gas to a riser up to the building. But they won't install a meter until I have a permenant gas appliance installed, as well as a pressure check of the internal gas piping, which is done by a licensed plumber. So I plan to put in a natural gas range/oven even if I have no walls etc. It's going in an island in the kitchen.

If I don't get that done soon the new law states that partial gas installations are subject to the new rules so I would lose all that I spent on the NG installation so far, which is about $6000.

So before I go out and buy all the stuff for a NG boiler the big push is to get the concrete in, then the gas piping in the building, electrical main panel then go by a NG range/ oven and get that installed so I can call to get a gas meter hooked up.

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   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #585  
That's kind of scary. I would be in a bit of a panic to get that done. Hoping it works for you. You should have plenty of time, but things have a way of happening when you have a deadline!!!!
 
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That's kind of scary. I would be in a bit of a panic to get that done. Hoping it works for you. You should have plenty of time, but things have a way of happening when you have a deadline!!!!
It's not fun. It's a bad law causing a lot of grief.
 
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   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #587  
California with all the world’s craziness they surcharge the building permit if you install gas plumbing. Yet they likely have the highest electricity rates plus tiers that make it higher yet. But they talk low cost housing? How? Politicians need mirrors to understand the problem.
 
   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #588  
Politicians need mirrors to understand the problem.
I heard a memorable quote today, in an audio book I was playing while working: "I wonder if politicians are born without souls, or if they lose them at puberty."
 
   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #589  
I have natural gas to a riser up to the building. But they won't install a meter until I have a permenant gas appliance installed, as well as a pressure check of the internal gas piping, which is done by a licensed plumber.
Does the code say you have to have "all" gas appliances installed, or just "a" permanent gas appliance installed? Is there a way (and would it be easier for you) that you could just install the water heater/boiler ("a permanent appliance") and the leave the rest of the piping for future hookup as per normal procedures? Maybe keep from having to install the range with no walls.

That is a really silly requirement.
 
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   / Barndominium/Shop or "real" House? #590  
Does the code say you have to have "all" gas appliances installed, or just "a" permanent gas appliance installed? Is there a way (and would it be easier for you) that you could just install the water heater/boiler ("a permanent appliance) and the leave the rest of the piping for future hookup as per normal procedures? Maybe keep from having to install the range with no walls.

That is a really silly requirement.
It would have to be "a", as the definition of "all" will surely change during the life of service, in almost any home.

Even our propane companies around here want "a" gas appliance installed before connecting, but you're free to add more after that.
 

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