Barnett Tractors??

[Kays Supply]

Has anyone dealt with Bill Barnett lately? I am trying to get in touch and his home page is down and not returning Email.

 

[1danny]

Has anyone dealt with Bill Barnett lately? I am trying to get in touch and his home page is down and not returning Email.

256-379-3700
256-379-4330

I don't know if these are still good, It has been a while.

Danny

 

[Kays Supply]

Thanks, I called him. He is having a hard time getting tractors. It seems the VC rebuilders are buying them up in bulk.

 

[kenmac]

Thanks, I called him. He is having a hard time getting tractors. It seems the VC rebuilders are buying them up in bulk.



I thought Bill bought the good tractors not the junk that V. C. rebuilders buy.




Are the V.C. rebuilders buying the good tractors now ??

 

[California]

Are the V.C. rebuilders buying the good tractors now ??

Let's make that VN.

Surprisingly, some of them may be. Some of the firms are adapting to changing times.

The "VN Rebuilt" place where I got hard parts to restore my Yanmar (battery holddown, fuel filter assembly, knob tips, etc) folded and disappeared. I think they were related to the big VN rebuild outfits. A previous manager once told me they turned up to 200 tractors per month, nearly all wholesaled to the infamous roadside dealers. Everybody in the place was recently-arrived Vietnamese.

Then that firm's last manager reappeared running a much smaller shop that performs similar appearance renovation here on site in Northern California. Their input tractors look pretty decent, about like my US-version Yanmar (see my sig photos) that honestly show their 20-30 years use but could probably be put in service right off the boat. If anyone wants to know where they are PM me. They have been wholesale-only until recently but I think sales are down and they may finally be starting to sell direct to customers.

These gorgeous appearance-renovated tractors are still old tractors. You need to plan on doing all your own work like if you bought it at a roadside dealer. I've done fine on my Yanmar with no local support, they really are that simple.

Added: They now say in their small ad:

"This tractor is imported directly from Japan and repainted in America.
AND is NOT reconditioned tractor from Viet Nam. "

 

[LMTC]

They now say in their small ad: Quote:
"This tractor is imported directly from Japan and repainted in America.
AND is NOT reconditioned tractor from Viet Nam. "

They may NOW say that....we have ALWAYS said that.

 

[gary1611]

They may NOW say that....we have ALWAYS said that.

If You want to promote your businesses buy a add as hoye has done. And stop trying to take there sales when someone recommends them by saying you have it cheaper ex. theres 130 yours 120 In another post you made and other's in this forum. hoye pays the bills not you. Without hoye and the other sponsors There would be no forum. Stop your underhanded tactics And sponsor the gray market. or stop trying to cheat hoye out of sells.

 

[mark777]

If You want to promote your businesses buy a add as hoye has done..... hoye pays the bills not you. Without hoye and the other sponsors There would be no forum.... .

I do NOT understand the point of your post??

LMTC, EFC, Danny Parker, Dave's Tractor and countless others don't advertise on TBN. Yet they all, from time to time, offer advice, opinions, technical assistance and years of experience. And they do so freely.

I have personally purchased many parts from Aaron (Hoye) and I also know that if he doesn't have what I need and another dealers does, I am saved from hours of phone calls, can confidently rely on their expertise with the correct or matched parts, and fix my, or someone else's tractor.

Mark

 

[Tractors4u]

If You want to promote your businesses buy a add as hoye has done. And stop trying to take there sales when someone recommends them by saying you have it cheaper ex. theres 130 yours 120 In another post you made and other's in this forum. hoye pays the bills not you. Without hoye and the other sponsors There would be no forum. Stop your underhanded tactics And sponsor the gray market. or stop trying to cheat hoye out of sells.

Get your facts straight. He was referring to the Vietnamese dealers. Last I checked, Hoye was Texan.

 

[LMTC]

If You want to promote your businesses buy a add as hoye has done. And stop trying to take there sales when someone recommends them by saying you have it cheaper ex. theres 130 yours 120 In another post you made and other's in this forum. hoye pays the bills not you. Without hoye and the other sponsors There would be no forum. Stop your underhanded tactics And sponsor the gray market. or stop trying to cheat hoye out of sells.

I've got news for you....first off my response was regarding the vn reseller referenced above. Second....no one....and I mean NO ONE has been any more active in promoting the positive aspects of the grey market Yanmars than we have.

Buy the ad? This forum's success is due almost entirely to the early ongoing presence and advice of dealers who do NOT have ads here.....dealers who may not do enought parts volume to justify an ad, but who's presence and expertise drew readers and posters here. Most of us sell tractors as a primary source of income, and tractor sales tend to be limited to your local area (I said "tend"). That makes us interested in the quality of the product in the market. Parts allow for a much larger market area. If we only sold parts, it might actually be in our interest for the overall quality in the market product to be lower. No, I am not pointing any fingers, but I am making a point; we have interests that parts only dealers do not. Now before you go and run with that, I will qualify it by saying I intend absolutely no disrespect to the parts seller you mention.....their market interests DO differ from ours, but they are a business of integrity.

You think someone from Hoye is going to address evey post and request made here? They might like to, but they haven't got the time. I would like to see what would happen to this forum if ALL the non-advertising dealers and sellers pulled out. I am certain had we all done that 5 years ago this forum would have folded. Now it might float based on volume, but there would still be (and still is) a fair amount of misinformation floating around.

I've been ripped by better than you, but it does get awfully tiring. A couple times in the past I have pulled out of this forum for several months. I'll watch this thread for the next few days. Here's your oppportunity....if more regular posters agree with you than support me, I'll walk.....for at least 4 months. Maybe more if I find I enjoy not getting dumped on. This online stuff allows too many irresponsible individuals the opportunity to strut their dysfunctional nonsense publicly with little or no consequence. Our history in this market goes back to early 1994. How much did you know about Yanmar in 1994? In 1999?

 

[oldhippy]

Boy did this thread get crazy or what. I for one am thankful for all the info that I have gotten from this forum. I bought my tractor from a roadside dealer and have a fine tractor but my support for repairs have been people that are on this board. I have dealt with Wayne at LMTC and find that my dealings with him have been professioal and pleasent. This as we all know is not the norm when dealing with most businesses nowdays. If someone bothers you on this page put him on your ignore list and move on. Once again thanks to all the people that help out on this forum. This forum is the reason that I own a great little tractor today.
Wayne don't leave us. big dan

 

[Kays Supply]

Kenmac, Back on topic, he can't find the quality and quanity he wants since the VC guys are buying them up. He has NO connection to them.

 

[California]

[to LMTC] Without hoye and the other sponsors There would be no forum.

Gary, there's more to it than that. This is a whole community with participants in various roles. Mark's list of dealers, Mark himself, and several others provide essential support in the form of advice here, to keep these tractors in service. Aaron comments when he has time but his big contribution to the community is his broad stock of parts. Enthusiastic users like you and me encourage new users by showing these 20-30 year old machines are just as usable as the more expensive alternatives. All these community roles are essential to keeping this brand alive.

Wayne (LMTC) can be hotheaded whenever somebody (me, mostly!) presses his button. So what? He's the one who faces the frustration of telling the Ebay winner that a purported 'Factory Rebuilt' Yanmar doesn't have a free nationwide warranty no matter what the auction said. I imagine he's been screamed at a few times when he explained this to a potential customer. That would make me hot too.

Wayne, calm down. Of course we support you. And sorry if my posts seem to promote a type of business you can't stand. My intention in posting was to share my observation so we all know what's going on. As I replied to kenmac, there may really be some competition to buy the better tractors in Japan. I think the local firm that folded lost their dealers from their internal quality control problems. The smaller subsequent one is determined to not repeat that error.

This firm I've described is the only place I've ever seen a Yanmar other than my own, in the past four four years. There simply aren't any others around here. You (Wayne) are 2500 miles east of me so it's not practical to stop by! The one legitimate Yanmar shop I was aware of in California moved on to selling Mahindras. I'm glad to see him expand his opportunities but now there's nobody within reasonable transport distance. He is a half day's drive north of me so I never visited him. (and Ernie is another 7 hours north of that). This local firm whatever their quality, has the local Yanmar market to themself. So we might as well recognise they exist.

Again, Wayne, calm down. We need you. And I'll try to not rile you!

 

[LMTC]

Partial Quote

Aaron comments when he has time but his big contribution to the community is his broad stock of parts.

Wayne (LMTC) can be hotheaded whenever somebody (me, mostly!) presses his button. So what? He's the one who faces the frustration of telling the Ebay winner that a purported 'Factory Rebuilt' Yanmar doesn't have a free nationwide warranty no matter what the auction said. I imagine he's been screamed at a few times when he explained this to a potential customer. That would make me hot too.

Wayne, calm down.

Again, Wayne, calm down. We need you. And I'll try to not rile you!

Why do you assume that I am hotheaded and not calm simply because I post a contrary opinion or information? Do you assume that a person cannot engage in disagreement, or even conflict of opinion while remaining calm? Your first post did not bother me whatsoever....it simply provided a good background with which to make a point. I made the point, and then was attacked by gary-what's-his-name, and responded to that with what I view as appropriate indignation. That doesn't mean I'm not calm. Your repeated instructions to me to calm down demean my other posts in this thread, implying that they are the result of not being calm, rather than the result of clear-headed intention. Even as I type this I doubt my blood pressure is up two points. If there is a person here reacting on feeling rather than thought, it certainly isn't me. No, I am not saying it is you...it may be no one, I don't know....but it isn't me.

Your comment about another business' big contribution seems to imply others do not have this "broad stock of parts". What parts have you found them to have that we do not have in our parts catalog?

 

[gary1611]

I'm more referring to other post just seems he's doing less and less helping and more and more selling.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/107133-update-my-ailing-ym135.html#post1220297
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/yanmar/107419-hot-upper-rad-hose-cold.html#post1222378
These are examples were he clearly try's to take business from hoye the forum sponsor. There are hard cost to running a forum like this. Server space employees etc. mark what will end up happening is the owner will have to put
a ban on all non sponsor selling as other forums have done. Or risk losing advertisers. I personally like reading from all the different suppliers And most don't undercut the sponsors.

 

[California]

Why do you assume that I am hotheaded

This is what I'm responding to.

if more regular posters agree with you than support me, I'll walk.....for at least 4 months.

and I'm saying don't do it. We don't want to see you disappear in response to anything anyone said. Your blue paragraph reads like a challenge, to me, and I'm saying please don't bother. That's all.

Your comment about another business' big contribution seems to imply others do not have this "broad stock of parts". What parts have you found them to have that we do not have in our parts catalog?

I'm aware the parts are available through several dealers. (and if you have unique stuff I want to be the first to know!) I've simply found the Hoye online parts diagrams convenient so I've used them in the past. And they are paying part of the bill to keep this circus online. I presume you both provide an equal excellent level of service.

 

[kenmac]

Kenmac, Back on topic, he can't find the quality and quanity he wants since the VC guys are buying them up. He has NO connection to them.


I know Bill has no connection to the V.N. tactor folkes. I just didn't know that the V.N. folkes were now buying the good tractors as well as the junk

 

[Gizmo36]

Don't let the door hit you in the butt .

 

[gary1611]

Don't let the door hit you in the butt .

You got a lot of room to talk.
As far as I'm concerned trying to take business from a sponsor is dirty business.
I don't need credibility. I can care less want some old fogies think of me on this forum Mod's If you don't like me Please ban me. I've never been banned from a forum I'd like to be banned from this one.