Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[PILOON]

My 300 lb brother just purchased an electric 'Fat Bike' and he lives in the cold far north, like real far!
Be interesting to see how he fares with it.

(wow!, pricey toy)

 

[fried1765]

I hope Ford pulls this rabbit out of the hat. Coming out with some EV's only to pull them off of the market was sad. Nissan has had its technology headaches but have keep rolling forward.

Starting with the Mustang makes sense since it has been a low volume market for years. It will be interesting when this 2021 will be in the show rooms.

It looks like going forward EV's will have a 300 mile range option which should help more mainstream sales. Our 100 mile range Nissan Leaf is cool but for a family with only car it was DOA.

Thanks for the link.

My son had a free leased Leaf for two years in Georgia (govt./state backed free lease).
He loved the Leaf.....but the range was dismal.
He turned it back on the free lease, but drove a free car for 2 years.

 

[3930dave]

My 300 lb brother just purchased an electric 'Fat Bike' and he lives in the cold far north, like real far!
Be interesting to see how he fares with it.

(wow!, pricey toy)

Fixed it for ya !

Hybrid gasoline e-bike for long journeys - Endless Sphere

Rgds, D.

 

[DarkBlack]

Harley Davidson recognizes that they have to find a way to appeal to younger buyers.

Yeh right.
I am sure millions of new young buyers will be snatching up these $30k 530lb bikes....
Ridiculous price.

 

[DarkBlack]

Fords new Mach E Info and pics leaked

TFL

Breaking News - 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E Leaked Before You're Supposed to See It! - YouTube

Looks more like the ol Ford Probe, than any Mustang.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Electric is becoming more main stream, This is in a Walmart lot by Collinsville IL. that I spotted on Saturday.View attachment 627502View attachment 627503

Dave

I finally made it to Paducah KY and fast charged my Leaf so I could make the 50 mile trip back home. Worked well and can handle up the 4 EV's at a time. Cold batteries charge slowly and hot batteries charge more quickly as do lead acid batteries. This 50 mile one way trip was a record in our case.

A lady stopped since the sun came out and I got warm and I had my window down. She said she was a retired school teacher and figured I was some kind of liberal to drive a zero emissions EV. She filled me in on the details of what was going in DC and how it was the last president that was the real law breaker but that he was untouchable.

I was able to find the End Session button and had enough juice to get home with 20 miles to spare. I asked if she was thinking about an EV and that was a negative. When the new Trail Blazers some out soon she is going to get a $50K version in black over red. I was down there with my Leaf Spy Pro and actively monitoring all the aspects of charging and was pressed for time. That was my first contact at public EV charging station. Since I have no head rotation I missed most of those staring at me but I did see one guy much older looking than me checking out what I was doing. This woman said my car was the first she ever saw at the chargers but I know they must see some traffic being on I-24 and near I-69.

While I have not done it yet I have charger options to make it to Nashville and back. This was my first every DC fast charge and it is FAST. It is about 5x faster than 240 volt charging with the built-in charger. A DC fast charge is just dumping 400 volts of DC straight to the battery.

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
How fast is FAST?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

About EV charging | Electrify America

"CCS and CHAdeMO chargers differ in the speeds at which they can charge. CCS on Electrify America’s network can charge at speeds up to 350kW, while our CHAdeMO chargers can charge at up to 50kW."

It is relative slow today in the case of the Leaf because it is stuck with the CHAdeMO system rated at 50kW max from years ago which I did hit for a few minutes when I was down to a State Of Charge of 5%. I went from 5% to 94% in 30 minutes receiving 16.9kWh with max charging rate of 47.38 kW at the cost of $7.30. I think the sessions are limited to 30 minutes and I never tried restarting to see if it would reach 100% SOC. It is a 30 wKh battery.

If one was traveling there is a long walk to the WM restrooms so it would be a good break. There is a Telsa super charger about 50 miles to the east on I-24 near the lakes.

 

[Jstpssng]

About EV charging | Electrify America

"CCS and CHAdeMO chargers differ in the speeds at which they can charge. CCS on Electrify America’s network can charge at speeds up to 350kW, while our CHAdeMO chargers can charge at up to 50kW."

It is relative slow today in the case of the Leaf because it is stuck with the CHAdeMO system rated at 50kW max from years ago which I did hit for a few minutes when I was down to a State Of Charge of 5%. I went from 5% to 94% in 30 minutes receiving 16.9kWh with max charging rate of 47.38 kW.

Thank you. In other words, you can drive to town, go to a Dr or other appointment, and by the time you get back you should be able to get home. A little less convenient than we are accustomed to yet seemingly not unreasonable. To me the big selling point of an EV as a second vehicle is the reduced maintenance and wear and tear, especially on short trips.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I can not imagine a low range EV as one's only vehicle but I know some do it. Our Leaf is just perfect for 2 round trips daily of 30 miles each where all the charging can be done at home at the direct energy cost of $1.10 per 30 mile trip. At home a 5% to 100% charge cost $2.20 so the WM option would be like I was going to Nashville or even Paducah in the Leaf just for the heck of it. We try to keep the cars and trucks relatively full of gas should I forget to charge, etc.

Because of the ice and snow (but mainly because of the salt) of last week I used the Subaru and we sure did miss the heat pump, heated seats and steering wheel. Next summer I can keep the car cool when waiting without running the engine like I have to do with the Subaru or PU. Lower energy cost is a plus and not sitting in a Minute Lube is also nice.

The EV's have their place and are not for everyone yet. In twenty years the kids will expect electric self driving cars to go to high school I expect.