Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[PuffyC]

My boss evacuated and it took 7 hours to go 50 miles he was just outside Houston city limits when he realized he was running low on fuel in his ICE vehicle and traffic was still bareley moving so he made a major decision to turn around and head back home toward the hurricane.

That’s the great thing about EVs - when you’re stuck in traffic it uses no battery. Whether it takes you an hour to go 50 miles or it takes you two days, it’s all pretty much the same.

 

[txdon]

That’s the great thing about EVs - when you’re stuck in traffic it uses no battery. Whether it takes you an hour to go 50 miles or it takes you two days, it’s all pretty much the same.

No the a/c, radio electronics and slow creeping stop starting for 7 hours will drain the batteries. Any test results of the number of hurricane evacuation hours the batteries will last would be appreciated- please site source.

And then how many charging stations working how many hours to charge A hundred thousand cars that all deplete within 50 - 100 miles of each other.

 

[3930dave]

That’s the great thing about EVs - when you’re stuck in traffic it uses no battery. Whether it takes you an hour to go 50 miles or it takes you two days, it’s all pretty much the same.

I can still tolerate a fair bit of Cold, relative to my age, and always travel with heavy gear, clothing wise in the Winter. Many people here don't.

T-shirt + hoodie, Nikes, stuck behind a big accident, -30C or lower, better hope you started out @ 80% + on the pack.....

Rgds, D.

 

[California]

Bay Bridge has an advantage.

Toss the driver overboard, tow the Tesla. Gotta Thin the Herd, when you can...

Rgds, D.

I never thought much about it but I just now read that 'Lincoln Tunnel' is three tunnels with only two lanes in each bore. There's your problem right there!

SF Bay Bridge moves twice the traffic volume over double the distance, but its 5 lanes wide in each direction. Including at the tunnel through Yerba Buena Island at the midpoint.

And its not claustrophobic like a tunnel, the view is magnificent. Now I see why a Lincoln Tunnel breakdown is a disaster.

 

[PuffyC]

No the a/c, radio electronics and slow creeping stop starting for 7 hours will drain the batteries. Any test results of the number of hurricane evacuation hours the batteries will last would be appreciated- please site source.

And then how many charging stations working how many hours to charge A hundred thousand cars that all deplete within 50 - 100 miles of each other.

Here you go Fact Check-Electric cars not more likely to get stuck in traffic jams

Assuming you trust Oxford scientists “typical stationary electric vehicle (EV) with full battery could likely run its climate settings and electronics for “at least a day, probably many days””

When the day finally comes that you have hundreds of thousands of EVs within 50 miles of each other, charging will look significantly different than it does today. And try finding gas in that same scenario. During the last hurricane I got stuck in, not only did stations run out but gas before it even made landfall, gas pumps don’t work when there’s no power. You’re screwed either way but in that scenario I’d take a charged Tesla vs my gas F150 all day long.

 

[PuffyC]

FedEx receives its first fully-electric GM Brightdrop delivery vans

“While FedEx has thrown its electric delivery lot in with GM, rival UPS has ordered 10,000 electric delivery trucks from UK-based Arrival Ltd. Amazon, meanwhile, placed an order for 100,000 Rivian electric delivery vans and even owns a 20 percent piece of the company. Amazon is ahead of both FedEx and UPS, having already started Rivian electric deliveries in both Los Angeles and San Francisco.”

 

[3930dave]

When the day finally comes that you have hundreds of thousands of EVs within 50 miles of each other, charging will look significantly different than it does today. And try finding gas in that same scenario. During the last hurricane I got stuck in, not only did stations run out but gas before it even made landfall, gas pumps don’t work when there’s no power. You’re screwed either way but in that scenario I’d take a charged Tesla vs my gas F150 all day long.

IC wise, my bugout choice would be small olde skool diesel... but I won't drift off there, except to say.......

The tough thing for electric high-density power is storability, and portability.... meaning off-board, but close-by.

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Exterior fuel-cans are for more than looking butch, driving to Starbuks.... though they get used for that too.....

I can easily carry enough extra fuel to traverse my Province, and it's not a small one.

Not just keyboard talking..... I take at least 40L of extra fuel with me, remote drives in Canada, during Summer, non-emergencies.
I do get that this practice is not "normal", but is one option that matters to me....

I (honestly) look fwd to the the day that EVs are that easy to backup....

Rgds, D.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

No the a/c, radio electronics and slow creeping stop starting for 7 hours will drain the batteries. Any test results of the number of hurricane evacuation hours the batteries will last would be appreciated- please site source.

And then how many charging stations working how many hours to charge A hundred thousand cars that all deplete within 50 - 100 miles of each other.

What is the brand of your EV that does that?

 

[3930dave]

Here you go Fact Check-Electric cars not more likely to get stuck in traffic jams

Assuming you trust Oxford scientists “typical stationary electric vehicle (EV) with full battery could likely run its climate settings and electronics for “at least a day, probably many days””

Ever deal with multi-hour ice-storms ? If where you are is anything like Oklahoma City, I'm guessing not often.....

Average Temperature in Oklahoma City ​

The hot season lasts for 3.3 months, from June 5 to September 15, with an average daily high temperature above 29 °C. The hottest month of the year in Oklahoma City is July, with an average high of 34 °C and low of 23 °C.
The cold season lasts for 3.0 months, from November 25 to February 23, with an average daily high temperature below 14 °C. The coldest month of the year in Oklahoma City is January, with an average low of -1 °C and high of 10 °C.

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I've seen 1/2"/hour of ice coming down, and had to drive through it. I'm not really interested in having limits placed on what resources I need, to survive sub and Arctic conditions.....

Energy Needs...... One Size, Doesn't Fit All......

Rgds, D.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

Which would also mean that the price of electricity will go up substantially. The difference is that there is no competition with my electric company. I don't have a choice of my home electricity, so I could look at price increases with no options like I have now.

Interesting. In Oregon, power companies are licensed public utilities. It is sad that you are subject to such rate gyrations, but the PNW has dibs on the Columbia River. The dams were built to power the US aluminum industry, which is a fraction of its post-war size.

There are flood control and hydro dams on the headwaters clear into Canada and back into the US. The system is the definition of stable, with massive water storage capacity as it drops thousands of feet. Flood Control is managed by the Corps Of Engineers, and power is generated by the Bonneville Power Administration.

As for sustainable, the dams will require repair from time to time. Grand Coulee is already more than half way through its design life span. Flood control is critical, and the Engineers are already maintaining the whole system. There have been historic floods on the Columbia, sometimes wiping out farms and towns.

They harnessed all that energy, at the expense of the salmon runs. For fish, the Columbia stops at Grand Coulee. It left us with remnants of a salmon run, and a smaller smelt run is also much reduced. That's a cost that nobody counts, but continues to this day.

I think we all know there is no such thing as free energy. Even the wind isn't free. Birds and bats use it. The Columbia also was courteous enough to slice through the Cascade Mountains and provide us with virtually unlimited wind power. The river goes from marine sea level to continental plateau in about 300 miles. Cascade passes are about 5000', except for the Columbia Gorge. The wind is always blowing there. You could line sections of the Gorge with windmills, but it's a bird flyway. They use it because the alternate route is a mile up.