Battery Help

   / Battery Help #1  

dj1701

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John Deere 4320, Kubota BX2680
The battery on my 2008 4320 finally gave up the ghost. What recommendations for replacement do you all have?

Thanks
Dave
 
   / Battery Help #2  
The battery on my 2008 4320 finally gave up the ghost. What recommendations for replacement do you all have?

Thanks
Dave
Wow, that is a good question. I think most are junk *compared* to a few years ago. Recently purchased "Die Hard" (2) for my tractor because that is what they had in stock. Normally, look for Interstate - ONLY because in the past I had good luck with them. Today, who knows ?
I am often perplexed to find a brand / model for anything. I have had OEM tires on a pickup go 80,000 and the next ones 20,000. Who really knows ?
Interesting to me was, the Die Hard batteries had a tag "made in Spain" on them ? So, they can manufacture these HEAVY units in Spain, transport to the US for less $ than "we" can make them here ? Wow... Guess I should not be surprised.
 
   / Battery Help #4  
I just put new batteries in almost all our vehicles & tractors & boat last year. I went with AGM and dual purpose deepcycle/starting battery type on everything.
That means no more wet cell batteries. I couldn't find a reason to put up with corrosion & maintenance now that sealed batteries like AGMs are available for every purpose.

I chose mostly based on matching physical size or group number, Cold Cranking Amps, and terminal configuration.

The brands I chose were Odyssey, NorthStar, and Interstate Marine. They weren't the cheapest, but when I looked back over what I spent for batteries in terms of dollars per year, the cheapest batteries were never the best deal..... only the cheapest at the time.

Ordered everything online. A surprising number of places ship for free. I can't drive to town to pick up a battery for what I can get one delivered.

Only problem is how to get the old batteries to the recycler.
rScotty
 
   / Battery Help #5  
I just put new batteries in almost all our vehicles & tractors & boat last year. I went with AGM and dual purpose deepcycle/starting battery type on everything.
That means no more wet cell batteries. I couldn't find a reason to put up with corrosion & maintenance now that sealed batteries like AGMs are available for every purpose.

I chose mostly based on matching physical size or group number, Cold Cranking Amps, and terminal configuration.

The brands I chose were Odyssey, NorthStar, and Interstate Marine. They weren't the cheapest, but when I looked back over what I spent for batteries in terms of dollars per year, the cheapest batteries were never the best deal..... only the cheapest at the time.

Ordered everything online. A surprising number of places ship for free. I can't drive to town to pick up a battery for what I can get one delivered.

Only problem is how to get the old batteries to the recycler.
rScotty
Probably different where you live but around here a couple junkyards actually pay money for junk batteries, think it’s 11 cents a pound next to nothing but at least you don’t have to pay to get rid of them.
 
   / Battery Help #6  
The battery on my 2008 4320 finally gave up the ghost. What recommendations for replacement do you all have?

Thanks
Dave
I put the JD battery in its place. 2008 - 2022 is a pretty good testament to performance.

But poking around to find better may be worth your time and money. Good luck
 
   / Battery Help #7  
That's almost how long the original Kubota battery - a wet cell type - lasted on the M59. From Spring of 2008 to this last Fall. Always had a charge until one day when it didn't. Unlike most batteries it didn't get weak, it just quit one day.
But during its tenure in the Kubota it required a terminal cleaning every couple of years and still managed to eat up a set of battery connectors, the entire negative lead to ground - which corroded away INSIDE the rubber insulation.
And of course the fumes ate up parts of the battery mounting box & bracketry.

I'm looking forward to the replacement AGM lasting as long and without the maintenance.
rScotty
 
   / Battery Help #8  
That's almost how long the original Kubota battery - a wet cell type - lasted on the M59. From Spring of 2008 to this last Fall. Always had a charge until one day when it didn't. Unlike most batteries it didn't get weak, it just quit one day.
That seems to be the way batteries are now. I have had several do that over the last decade. The car starts just fine and an hour later the battery is just done. I was SURE my alternator wasn’t working in my truck, nope, just a dead battery. There must be a difference in the tech that causes a cell to stop working nearly instantly.
 
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#9  
That's almost how long the original Kubota battery - a wet cell type - lasted on the M59. From Spring of 2008 to this last Fall. Always had a charge until one day when it didn't. Unlike most batteries it didn't get weak, it just quit one day.
But during its tenure in the Kubota it required a terminal cleaning every couple of years and still managed to eat up a set of battery connectors, the entire negative lead to ground - which corroded away INSIDE the rubber insulation.
And of course the fumes ate up parts of the battery mounting box & bracketry.

I'm looking forward to the replacement AGM lasting as long and without the maintenance.
rScotty
What is AGM?
 
   / Battery Help #11  
AGM means Absorbed Glass Matt think a thin sheet of lead with a layer of fiberglass laying on top of it. Then roll it up. That’s one glass mat cell.

In AGM batteries (also called starved electrolyte), there is a thin ultra-fine fiberglass mat sandwiched between the plates that are saturated with battery acid to about 95% of what they can hold. This mat is then packed in between the plates and slightly compressed, then welded/soldered in place.
 
   / Battery Help #12  
Last spring, I needed a new battery for my 2007 John Deere 2210. Ended up at Sam's. A Durocell came with a three-year full replacement warranty, whereas all of the other batteries had a one-year full replacement and a two or three-year pro rated warranty. Prices were about the same for all, regardless of label.
 
   / Battery Help #13  
The battery on my 2008 4320 finally gave up the ghost. What recommendations for replacement do you all have?

Thanks
Dave
Check with Walmart
 
   / Battery Help #14  
The battery on my 2008 4320 finally gave up the ghost. What recommendations for replacement do you all have?

Thanks
Dave
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   / Battery Help #15  
Replace with as many CA's/CCA's as will fit in the battery box. Brand name batteries with warranty bought from good retailers are the way to go. I have heard bad things about new Optima batteries so you might wanna stay away from them. Personally I just get a good quality HD lead acid battery. The last one lasted 6 winters before it started getting weak for very cold [-25/30c] starting
 
   / Battery Help #16  
I find Walmart to have the best prices on replacement batteries (made by Johnson Controls in the U.S.) online you can get agm batteries shipped from Chrome Battery. I don't know if the have your size
 
   / Battery Help #17  
I have had the best luck using the JD Strong Box batteries. I think they must be built for high vibration and bounce because any another brand just hasn't worked well.
 
   / Battery Help #18  
Wow, that is a good question. I think most are junk *compared* to a few years ago. Recently purchased "Die Hard" (2) for my tractor because that is what they had in stock. Normally, look for Interstate - ONLY because in the past I had good luck with them. Today, who knows ?
I am often perplexed to find a brand / model for anything. I have had OEM tires on a pickup go 80,000 and the next ones 20,000. Who really knows ?
Interesting to me was, the Die Hard batteries had a tag "made in Spain" on them ? So, they can manufacture these HEAVY units in Spain, transport to the US for less $ than "we" can make them here ? Wow... Guess I should not be surprised.
Unions and ridiculous Minimum Wages had put the USA out of the world market.
 
   / Battery Help #19  
I put a NAPA legend battery in my 2005, JD 4120 last winter. I had to add a 5/8” thick plywood spacer below, to get the height right, but it has been working ok.


I kept my old battery, which was about 5 years old and I purchased it from TSC. It had been cranking slow in the cold. Now that it has warmed up, I am going to put that one back in the tractor.

The NAPA legend has top and side posts. I am going to put it in my old Chevy Silverado pickup as the new “primary”. It has been cranking a little slow and still has the original, year 2000 battery, as the “camper special” auxiliary. I will trade that old year 2000 battery in on the next new one I get.
 
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#20  
Well, I bought a JD Strongbox from my local dealer who is just down the road. They had one in stock for $155.13
Big Greenie is alive and kicking again.
 

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