Belarus Tractors

   / Belarus Tractors #81  
Actually the gearing is the same, its just the stickshift that is of to the side on the 925.(i actually like the center stick on the 800 better)
I bet the tranny covers are interchangable.
 
   / Belarus Tractors #82  
My god i cant believe this many people could like these things ,
" Run away from it"
Regardless of what people say on this forum it is THE worst quality tractor available nothing more reliable has ever been built , Just check out any other forum or even compare prices to real tractors of same age , I know dealers yards full of these things that have sat there for 4 years , Ask a farmer if he would buy one ?

To answer your question as a "farmer" ... yes.
 
   / Belarus Tractors #83  
To answer your question as a "farmer" ... yes.

As a farmer I'd second that also - like any tractor brand there are both good & not so good Belarus models.....

Belarus tractors - Page 2

We're still raking up low cost hours in second hand Belarus tractors (a 1770, 1500 & a newly aquired 7000) - sure I wouldn't rely on them as primary tractors but as standby/harvest hands/paddock bashers they take some beating - including an old Belarus 1770 185hp "beast" bought second hand for just under .AUD$5K that to date has experienced no breakdowns & only maintenance costs have been for oil/lubricants & hyd filters + $485 for a compressor & regass to fix the A/C.

Pro's
- Purchased originally with the intent of a fun project for repowering with a Cat & Allison auto combo for field bin haul outs & discoveredafter purchase it ran far too well to bother, in fact runs so well it's been abused for tillage & other generally tractor duties so as not to wear out my newer gear ( JD's, CNH'S & others).
- The quoted 185HP are more like Russian "bears" as it seems to put out far more than standard tractor "horse power"....
- In total its now done 7879hrs & even if was to break "terminally" tomorrow by my reckoning at $10/hr (@ my use of well more than 500+hrs/$5K purchase) less each hr + fuel+basic maintenance it's worked out a cheap 185hp tractor (given I'll also get say$500+ for scrap for the China trip if/when it finally dies I'm still well in front).
- Built like a T34 tank and all steel ( well as close to steel as eastern bloc steel is ) is double+ the normal thickness of modern tractors/ditto for castings ( which seem to be non-dressed sand castings), no plastics/polycarbonates in sight, this thing weight heaps so no need for ballast
- Easy to work on, low (make that zero) tech & very basic, no electrics (probably used an abacus, or at best a slide rule for design/engineering/production rather than a calculator) & the engineering tolerances are measured in inches/feet rather than thou so you don't have to very precise on finding/fitting the original part as virtually anything can be made to fit.
- Economical to run sipping fuel & environmentally friendly as it runs on anything (probably because of the tolerances or maybe it was designed original to run on home made vodka), whilst I wouldn't recommend it we run this on a mix of our "cocktail" of all (screened) waste oil 30/70 diesel (saves money & all the hassle of waste oil disposal)
- The centrifugal spinning reusable oil filters & oil pressure pump that builds lubrication pressure prior to start up are class leading marvels
- Has a unique onboard controlled lubrication system which works on the basis of weeping oil from everything & over everything to prevent wear & rust
- 4WD strength & capability, the axle are strong enough to tilt the globe on its axis, virtually impossible to bog & easily recovers much larger equipment for its size the capability of mountain goat with the heart of a bear!!
- Starts every time; the starter winds very slowly & long (again complimenting a unique engine design working on the principle of filling the cylinders with diesel to the point of "hydraulic'g" displacing the more common diesel ignition scenario of glow plugs/misting/compression ) with the tractor always firing up after the ritual chant of verbal abuse & one puff of black smoke in salutation to Gorby & other leaders of the USSR

Con's
- Your neighbours will firstly laugh at you for buying a s/h Belarus (but not so much when they're sitting in the paddock waiting for the dealer technician to arrive to reflash the computer on their JD's & CNH's, even less when you are able to "shout" them drinks at the pub with the money you're saving & their laughing all stops when you loan them the Belarus beast to complete their tillage as the replacement ECU still hasn't arrived to mobilise their JD or CNH)
- The wiring defies all logic & is a complete mystery, doing away with conventions of + & -'s, & is more like some miniature nuclear powerplant where all you need to do is concentrate on containing the heat & smoke from exposure to the atmosphere (our multimeter has proved useless for diagnostic, probably had a geiger counter included when new in the factory tool kit)
- The Cab is made from something with the consistency/stength of paper mache & any ROPS integrity is questionable
- "LOUD" make that VERY LOUD, sounds like God clearing his throat on a bad day, reasonates for miles & requires ear plugs +over ear hearing protection so radios & CB's are superfluous as cab fitment. Subscribes to the screaming GM theory of converting diesel into noise = bulk grunt
- It's a very "historic & agricultural" tractor, in that it drives/operates extremely agricultural and historic as it pays homage in design/ergonomics belongs to the Steam or is that Stone Age?
- Require 5 very unique special tools: being sledge hammer, stilson wrench, easy outs, thread locker & occasionally a MIG welder.
- Try as we might these Belarus beasts just won't die, several of our "farmhands" & neighbours have tried their best & been defeated, and nothing short of the tri-combo of a stake through the heart, silver bullet & Viking burial has a chance (& even then I'm sure the beast will rise again like the Phoenix...)

Would I buy another S/H Belarus, you bet if ever this one manages to wear out?would I buy a new Belarus, not while you can continue to pick up these rare beasts at give away prices S/H. We've all come to admire these USSR marvels & for all itheir foibles/idiosyncrasies....they sure aint pretty.... and despite our farmhands treating them like the rejected relative you really only have to tolerate occasionally at Christmas, weddings & funerals.....
 
   / Belarus Tractors #84  
The 1770's I've heard were whisper quiet...you had to be standing next to them to hear the engine purring. But they also had massive "pot" type mufflers. Sitting in the cab, they weren't bad and the engines were balanced well on those models, at least the US ones. Sound deadening insulation was inside too. Maybe as they got older the dB's increased.
 
   / Belarus Tractors #85  
MD Trac you got a whole shed full of them beasts!! But you don't have one with the big V-12 yet :D Gosh if you can find them for that price and they work for you heck thats a bargin just keeping on piling the hrs. on. $5K doesn't even buy a set of front tires on one of your JD 4-wheel drives now a days. If you know how to run them and have work for them to do they are the best kept secret in AG for cheap HP.

I have to admit if there is a dirty job to do ... the Belarus does it. It gets used and abused all winter as when its -40 out its the machine that has to fire up.

When we first got this little 80hp MFD model we weren't expecting much as well we "heard" the stories and bought it cheap used. After the 1st week of use we were scratching our heads and both agreed heck for small investment this thing can do a lot!

I'd like to find another one but bigger then mine as its a wee bit light for what I'm doing with it for loader work. Some like 100 hp or 125hp. In Canada they did bring over some of those 125hp 6cyl models but you never see any used ones around:(

I'm curious to see what this new generation of MTZ Belarus tractors look like and how they'll perform. I think now a days the factory has to meet certain ISO quality control ratings or something to sell into the rest of Europe.
 
   / Belarus Tractors #86  
My god i cant believe this many people could like these things ,
" Run away from it"
Regardless of what people say on this forum it is THE worst quality tractor available nothing more reliable has ever been built , Just check out any other forum or even compare prices to real tractors of same age , I know dealers yards full of these things that have sat there for 4 years , Ask a farmer if he would buy one ?
As a rancher i say yes.
I do not believe there are many guys that go feed their cows like this with a 75 hp tractor ;)
It was all in a days work for this old girl for 20 odd years.
Only the front axle wasn't up to the task and had to be replaced by something more beefy.
 

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   / Belarus Tractors #87  
As a rancher i say yes.
I do not believe there are many guys that go feed their cows like this with a 75 hp tractor ;)
It was all in a days work for this old girl for 20 odd years.
Only the front axle wasn't up to the task and had to be replaced by something more beefy.

Holy cow that's a lot of wieght on that little tractor especaily in the dead of winter on frozen rough ground. No wonder the front axle gave out on you. Is it a daily thing hauling 4 at once always? If its lasted 20 years do'n it then I guess it can handel it.
 
   / Belarus Tractors #88  
Holy cow that's a lot of wieght on that little tractor especaily in the dead of winter on frozen rough ground. No wonder the front axle gave out on you. Is it a daily thing hauling 4 at once always? If its lasted 20 years do'n it then I guess it can handel it.
Yep, 5 trips 4 at a crack 1/2 ml trips from the haystack to the feeding grounds every 3 days, 20 bales total,.. makes feeding 250 bison only a 2 hr chore.;)
no problem getting trough 2' snow with all that weight.:)
Only driving back out empty was problematic at times when i slid off the trail, that's why i bought the 925 when i had the chance, only on this one i carry 1 bale up front( don't want to risk breaking the front axle pounding over the frozen turds)
I use the 800 now only as back up.
The replacement front axle came from a cockshutt 1800 wheatland. It is proven indestructible:thumbsup:
 
   / Belarus Tractors #89  
I imagine it was a bit different running the 925 with MFD I know I wouldn't be with out MFD now on a loader tractor.

I've lifted some heavy loads with mine as in pallets of lumber. The loader had a hard time lifting but I made sure I went slow. I've bent one of the lift cylinder rods running the bale head attachment. Dropped it too fast one day and ... it didn''t like that! Machine shop built me a new rod so it wasn't too bad. 18 bales x 60lbs is only 1080lbs but then the bale head wieghs a fair bit too and it sticks out so far. The tractor handles it pretty good way better then the 970 Case I have actually. With a load on the case won't ... turn the front wheels plus the hydraulic vavles are not that good for loader work. Belarus has a joy stick with seperate hyd. vavles. Problem though with the 825 is the loader is not quite high enough so you lose reach when its all the way up. It works but the top tier is tough to get off. Thought of another loader but I don't know wouldn't mind having a bigger tractor some days.

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   / Belarus Tractors #90  
The powersteering on the 800 is not to shabby but the 925 steers a lot easier under load.
On both loaders the dump cylinder rods a 1 1/4" and I've never bend one yet, but then my cylinders are not under the stress being under slung like yours
My 925 has the old style levers,not what i prefer but it is what it is.
I have never seen a loader that reached high enough. lol

I loaded a couple semis with a 1070 case for a guy last spring,..it would not be my tractor either,.. like you said, hydr controls in the wrong place and i don't like that powershift at all,.i call these cases mexican jumping beans :)
 

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