Bet Your Towing Illegally!!!!! So Check Your Balls!!!!!!!

[bdog]

I rarely come here. But to reply to all of the responses...I tow a LOT. For those up grading your trailers please look into "combination plates" they are becoming the law of the land for those of us towing over 10k trailers. Additionally, without a doubt the first thing a cop will ask to see is your "Med Card" ( known as a DOT physical) which is a cursory physical of sorts and sight/hearing test. Many chiropractors do DOT physicals, about $90 and good for two years. NEXT, you'll need DOT numbers for the side of your truck (fuel logs, etc), safety triangles, fire extinguisher. If they pull you over you better know EXACTLY where these items are (they can fine you if don't know, proves you did NOT do a pre-trip inspection). Some may ask to see your log book, YES, your log book! Anytime you get above 10k trailers (except an RV) yo uopen up a WHOLE lot of worms!!!. Yes, over do it on the balls, hitches, etc.... BUT the weakest link is ALWAYS, ALWAYS the trailer tires. I run nearly ALL 8 bolt 16" tire in a "G-series" full steel cased tire. The are like tractor trailer tires, high pressure (100 psi) and NO SQUIRM! Straight as an arrow. They are expensive...ever blow a tire with a load....NOT FUN! Run good tires! . Anti sways are OK....I have used them I'm the past, usually at a camp I worked, we trailered behind 11 passenger vans, BIG safety concerns. I have driven to Mexico City 4 times, and all across Canada and the US pulling trailers for that camp. Most on the last 10-15 years was for myself and hauling logs, lumber, machinery. My suggestion is to go with ONLY as much GVW rated trucks and equipment as you need. Keep the traielr under 10k and the truck not over 15k ... otherwise you violate the "magic"number of 26k...at which point even empty without a class b/c CDL your looking at $600 fine. I could go on for hours a out tieing down loads. Suffice it to say, all four corners, PLUS buckets have there own. The four corners HAVE to be separate systems...even if you could cut the chain between them and nothing happens, that still is NOT a separate system in the eyes of the law. .....be safe out there. R

Combination plates or the need for them is on a state by state basis. I have combination (well apportioned) plates on my semi but could have had combination if I just stayed in state but I do have just regular plates for my F-450 and 30k gooseneck and it is perfectly legal.

The 10k limit is true when cross state lines and in commerce. If you stay within your state (in most states not all) you can be over 10k with no problems or need for all that crap.

Federally unless you are engaged in commerce you can exceed 10k without the need for it.

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"However, Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) provide an exception for the transportation of horses and other animals to shows and events, as well as cars, boats and other similar items. When such transportation is not business related (i.e., the transportation is not for compensation, and the driver is not performing in an underlying business related to the move), the FMCSRs do not apply"

 

[Elviscaretaker]

Mine is two chains...

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I still have one of those new but rusty in the box! Maybe I should sell it instead of hanging it on the wall? lol

 

[ultrarunner]

Problem is few cars made in the last 30 years would be candidates...

I last used mine on a 1976 Ford Granada!!!

 

[TractorNH]

I rarely come here. But to reply to all of the responses...I tow a LOT. For those up grading your trailers please look into "combination plates" they are becoming the law of the land for those of us towing over 10k trailers. Additionally, without a doubt the first thing a cop will ask to see is your "Med Card" ( known as a DOT physical) which is a cursory physical of sorts and sight/hearing test. Many chiropractors do DOT physicals, about $90 and good for two years. NEXT, you'll need DOT numbers for the side of your truck (fuel logs, etc), safety triangles, fire extinguisher. If they pull you over you better know EXACTLY where these items are (they can fine you if don't know, proves you did NOT do a pre-trip inspection). Some may ask to see your log book, YES, your log book! Anytime you get above 10k trailers (except an RV) yo uopen up a WHOLE lot of worms!!!. Yes, over do it on the balls, hitches, etc.... BUT the weakest link is ALWAYS, ALWAYS the trailer tires. I run nearly ALL 8 bolt 16" tire in a "G-series" full steel cased tire. The are like tractor trailer tires, high pressure (100 psi) and NO SQUIRM! Straight as an arrow. They are expensive...ever blow a tire with a load....NOT FUN! Run good tires! . Anti sways are OK....I have used them I'm the past, usually at a camp I worked, we trailered behind 11 passenger vans, BIG safety concerns. I have driven to Mexico City 4 times, and all across Canada and the US pulling trailers for that camp. Most on the last 10-15 years was for myself and hauling logs, lumber, machinery. My suggestion is to go with ONLY as much GVW rated trucks and equipment as you need. Keep the traielr under 10k and the truck not over 15k ... otherwise you violate the "magic"number of 26k...at which point even empty without a class b/c CDL your looking at $600 fine. I could go on for hours a out tieing down loads. Suffice it to say, all four corners, PLUS buckets have there own. The four corners HAVE to be separate systems...even if you could cut the chain between them and nothing happens, that still is NOT a separate system in the eyes of the law. .....be safe out there. R

So since the law says 4 tie downs for vehicles under 10k lbs, this is technically illegal right?

 

[4570Man]

So since the law says 4 tie downs for vehicles under 10k lbs, this is technically illegal right?
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I think it’s over 10k.

 

[WranglerX]

Believe Calif law states 4 tiedowns, one on each corner....

Dale

 

[Redlands Okie]

So since the law says 4 tie downs for vehicles under 10k lbs, this is technically illegal right?
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Best make sure the straps or tie downs will pass DOT acceptance.

I also thing that yellow dump truck is larger than it appears. Look how small that yield sign is sticking out of the dump bed

 

[Elviscaretaker]

Problem is few cars made in the last 30 years would be candidates...

I last used mine on a 1976 Ford Granada!!!

That's funny, last time I used one of these was on a '76 Maverick. And, for some odd reason I miss that car. It was a POS though.

 

[ultrarunner]

I end up building or adapting a hitch most of the time if I have a need.

The Plymouth Valiant spent years hauling 1 yard concrete trailers and the 57 Ford and Model A Ford towed the outboard to the lake and all have hitches I built...

The Granada was Grams car but it had the perfect bumper for the clamp on chain hitch...

 

[Elviscaretaker]

I end up building or adapting a hitch most of the time if I have a need.

The Plymouth Valiant spent years hauling 1 yard concrete trailers and the 57 Ford and Model A Ford towed the outboard to the lake and all have hitches I built...

The Granada was Grams car but it had the perfect bumper for the clamp on chain hitch...

Building your own, the way to go. At least I love making the stuff I need. I find it relaxing.
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