Big cities are dying. This should shock you.

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   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #181  
But the law enforcement officers have to be able to enforce the law. In the Seattle documentary the cops quit because they were NOT allowed to enforce laws that are on the books.

It cannot be legal for someone to crap in a hospital doorway or drain their oil in a parking lot, but cops are told not to enforce laws by elected officials who obstruct the law... how did it get this way?

Because people elected people who would not enforce the law. How many sanctuary cities are there? There are several in my area and even my itty, bitty town/county decided to not enforce immigration laws. We just had an actor make serious allegations and comment multiple felonies yet the DA buries it. This has happened locally where the criminals where doing something that is PC and the charges were dropped. The excuse was that there was not enough evidence even though they were on video. Similar law breaking was allowed by the powers that be a local university because it was PC.

This one just cracks me up with the irony. During the last election cycle, the long serving REP sheriff was voted out of office. The old sheriff had correctly demoted a ranking officer who had made homophobic statements. A DEM was elected. One of his first actions was to fire to deputies who had reported the previously mentioned ranking officer, and then promoted the bigoted officer back to his old rank. There was some outcry about this but it went away pretty quickly. If the old sheriff had done what the new one did, there would be calls for impeachment. The other irony, is that the current sheriff has blatantly shown his bigotry, made it known to the deputies that this bigotry is acceptable in the department, and the people who elected this guy, as well as the power's that be, are ok with this mess.

Another local city has a pan handler issue. The city created an ordinance prohibiting pan handling, or at least that is what you would think, if you read the title of the regulation. The ordinance was changed a couple of times, and while the title implies that pan handling is illegal, the actual wording means pan handling is legal. There is no way for law enforcement to stop pan handling on public streets. As Gomer would say, Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. There are beggars on most major street corners. So far they are not robbing people like used to happen in Miami...

Later,
Dan
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you.
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It was not very long ago that my wife was issued a jaywalking ticket in Seattle, not even at a crowded intersection in rush hour where she would be preventing cars from moving. It was a side street and the cop was just enforcing the law. Now look at the mess we have when laws are not enforced, people can camp and crap on public property, shoot up drugs and elected officials say to look the other way. All the garbage, feces and needles the druggies leave behind ought to be hauled to the elected officials home doorstep.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #183  
I hate cities. But I have heard the opposite. They are coming back. The children of people who fled the cities don't remember why their parents left. Plus millenials don't like to drive or commute.

I didn't watch the video, but don't believe cities are dying.

That's the same observation I have. Millenials love cities. For me, give me the city or boondocks. What I cannae endure is the suburbs.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #185  
We made a decision not to leave in big city back in 1980s, but as said above, they are moving to us.. we have neighbors now way too close. We are not in a position to move again, but certainly have considered it. Many of the city ideas came with them, things that caused them to move from the city. I have no problem (some, but that is my issue) with people moving to a different area, but please stop trying to make it like the area you left that caused you to leave.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #187  
Successful rural living requires both knowledge and initiative. I remember developing and building my first rural home. It was like climbing out of a black hole, and I had the use of my dad's farm equipment and shop just 5 miles away, plus I was working construction. My first house was 1/4 built out of old concrete forms. I had so much to learn, and I was just an ignorant kid. The company I was working for remodeled a service station into an office. The canopy had 8' fluorescent fixtures that I salvaged and set up vertically around my house site. I worked until 10:00 every night, climbed into bed in a travel trailer, and got up at 6 AM the next morning to do it all again. I made so many mistakes roughing in the plumbing that I could have hired a plumber cheaper, but I ended up knowing how to do it.

Cities do all that for you. They take care of your water and sewer, you don't have to drill a well, trench in a septic drain field, or electrical service, or build your own road to your house. People move to cities because they can live better with less effort in a communal environment. Farms need fewer workers and farmers need more land, so rural communities are shrinking. The best way to have a job in the country is to have the skills to make your own, and the initiative to put in 16 hours a day making it go.

That said, I have always counted my blessings that people prefer to huddle together in cities. If they didn't, they would be out here messing up my environment like they mess up the cities. People who live in cities have to be willing to put up with the stink and the filth, the drippy motor oil that eats the tar right out of the asphalt in parking lots, and all the people driven crazy by the lack of peace and solitude.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you. #188  
As far as the jaywalking goes. You still don't get it. It's not about public safety. Your wife looked like she had the extra tax dollars to give them. The NERVE of her to BREAK the LAW! The guy crapping on the sidewalk has not got a nickle, so no interest in what he is doing.
 
   / Big cities are dying. This should shock you.
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As far as the jaywalking goes. You still don't get it. It's not about public safety. Your wife looked like she had the extra tax dollars to give them. The NERVE of her to BREAK the LAW! The guy crapping on the sidewalk has not got a nickle, so no interest in what he is doing.

There is a lot of truth to what you just wrote. Honest people still get charged with breaking the law, but these drug addicts living in public spaces do not. I do not have a problem with the former, the law is the law. I have huge problems with the later since it perpetuates and expands the problem. We give them an inch, they take a mile. City leaders need to enforce the law. No drug shootup areas, no living in public spaces, no deficating in the street.

Heck, I would probably get a ticket if my dog crapped in front of an encampment and I did not clean it up. But the dirt bags can even crap in front of little kids. Disgusting.
 
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I hope, that once in a while I say something that is at least interpreted as truthful,

I think the solution is Alcatraz. A new found purpose. Just drop these people off there, and drop off some basic food and water once a week. Let things work out as they might. It would be a most interesting experiment, if nothing else.
 
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