Big first steps towards construction

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OkeeDon

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I decided to post this in Rural Living because that's going to be the ultimate result. A couple of major things have come together over the past few weeks to ensure this is going to happen.

*Commercial property sold; house financing set...
The biggest thing is that today, we signed a formal contract to sell a small commercial property we own. This has been in the works for a couple of weeks, but I didn't want to jinx it by saying something before we had a signed contract. This is not a huge deal; it's only a 1200 sq. ft. building on about 1/2 acre of land, but it's enough to completely pay for the construction of our new house, barn and pool. That makes it a big deal in our book.

In order to reduce capital gains taxes and provide future retirement income, we structured the sale with seller-held financing. We'll take a line-of-credit equity loan on our existing house to pay for the new house, pay off the equity loan when we sell the older house, and continue to have loan income at a comfortable rate of interest for the next 20 years. For the next year during consturction, the interest on the seller-financed note will pay the interest on the equity loan. This structure will make a considerable difference in our retirement.

*House plans to architect...
The other significant progress was that with the impending sale of the commercial property, I was motivated to get my house design to someone qualified to turn the design into a working plan. For the past 2-1/2 years, I have been drawing designs in TurboCad, a computer-aided drawing program similar to AutoCad, but a whole bunch more affordable. As my wife and I dreamed and discussed, I tried putting the ideas down on paper. I'm now on design #6, having progressed through each previous iteration while moving closer to what we really want. It sure is easier (and cheaper) to discard a computer drawing than it is to build the wrong thing...

I finally got the design to the point where I said, "Enough. This is it, and I can't take it any further without help." The problem then became, where to turn? I've never built a house before. My choices seemed to be architect, engineer, house designer, contractor/designer. I'm going to serve as my own contractor, so it would be difficult to persuade a contractor to come up with plans for something he isn't going to build. An engineer, it seemed to me, was really only suitable to stamp drawings after they were complete. A house designer (a professional with training and skills but who is not a professional architect) seemed like a good choice.

I was intimidated with the idea of an architect. From my limited experience, it seemed like they only wanted projects a whole lot bigger and richer than mine. The anecdotes I had heard where that they were arrogant, expensive, and too controlling. However, I found a local architect who was advertising under both "architects" and "home designers". That removed a little of my trepidation, and I phoned him. One of his first questions was, "Do you plan to serve as your own contractor?" When I replied, "Yes", he responded "Fine", and I knew we were well on the way to a match.

I emailed him my plans in AutoCad format about 4 weeks ago, and gave him the URL of the site planning photos on my web site (Okeechobee Project). He looked, liked what he saw, and we met last week. I'm more enthused with him than I expected, and he appears to be enthused with the project. He's working up a proposal for me, now, but I have already accepted his ball-park price. I don't know how long it's going to take for him to work his magic, but I would expect something in the range of 3 months or so, and won't be upset with 6 months (he has a healthy backlog). That means that we could be pulling permits as early as September and no later than the end of the year. The sooner the better, but I've already put 2-/12 years into this project and I'm not going to start to rush it, now.

So, that's all my big news. I'm excited. As things start to solidify, I'll start a thread on construction in "projects", but until then, attached is a simple outline of the projected house.
 

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Don; Good for you!! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I had an archetect/injunear take a design for me that required a lot of steel. Since I'm not an ironworker or even a weldor at that time, I had him design and stamp plans for wood instead of the steel. Did a stellar job and saved me a bunch of bucks.

Good luck, and sounds like you fell into the right pile. Feels good, doesn't it. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Don, from what I see of your attachment, I like it. Simple, large veranda or covered porch for those of you not fluent in the spanish lingo. Looks great, we are getting our similar plans which has a garage below and a studio upstairs above the garage. It is a temporary housing quarters for us while we move our old worn out mobile home off the building site. After that it is a studio or guest house. We can't wait, this mobile home stuff is not us.
 
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Congratulations Don, it's been a long time coming. It will be fun for not only you, but for many of us as well to watch things progress.
 
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Great news Don We've recently found ourselves in the same position but we jumped way ahead of ourselves and had our income come from our city house we sold that we were living in, now we are living in a 200 year old caretakers cabin while building our house, the cabin over the years had indoor plumbing installed so at least we aren't reduced to an outhouse but its very very rustic we'll say beyond what most men could talk their wife of 25 years into, lets see you want me to move out of a 2,000 sq ft house in subburbia to live in a tin shack in the middle of a 350 acre ranch.
We finally after many false starts by contractors told them all to leave and are doing it ourselves as of last weekend. We got farther in 2 days then 4 different contractors got since August.
We drilled 27 pier posts and got the corner posts in the ground and should finish the rest this weekend and you know when we get finished it may not be the fanciest house in the hill country but we'll have done it completely by ourselves and I'm sure that I'll be much happier knowing that everthing was done exactly like I wanted it because I did it or at least I'll know who to blame. By the way lose the pool and dormers and your building our house. Its taken some long hard sleepless nights to come to this conclusion but with the money we save we'll be able to retire earlier and enjoy the ranch while were still young as we got a nice chunk for the one in town and it was paid for. We didn't lose the pool completely I put a lake in below the house site last year although you have to take the snake gun this time of year if your swimming to ward off the moccasins.
Good Luck with your house I'll be watching as I also drew and designed our house plans but have elected to fly by the seat of my pants a bit and just nail it together and not worry with an architect. My dad built houses for a living but retired when I was 18 so I got to see it done but didn't get that much experience actually doing it although my dads still kicking he's fighting the cancer thing so about all he can do is watch but even thats a help since he did it by himself for many years he has a lot of great information to pass on. I have told him just come out and sit in a lawn chair in the shade and scream no Jackass not that way when he sees me getting ready to do something wrong.
Steve
 
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My first thought was, How is that roof going to shed snow? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Then I remembered where you live... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Nice looking plans - congratulations on moving forward...
 
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Thanks for all the good wishes. I'm going to have a lot of fun describing it as it gets designed and constructed. After 2-1/2 years of thought, research and planning, there are a lot of things that are just a little different than most houses, but they suit us. For example, just as a teaser, our kitchen is not going to have any cabinets. Thanks to lots of Friday evenings in Barnes & Noble, and Google, we've made a LOT of neat decisions.

The drawing I posted, by the way, has no doors or windows, and the roof lines don't exactly come together right, but that's OK -- that's the architect's job once I gave him the general shell and room layout to work with.

The main floor is about 2100 sq. ft, with the left half of the house being an open great room with high cathedral ceiling. The right half of the house is 2 large bedrooms and baths downstairs. Above that half is a 1000 sq ft loft with 2 smaller bedrooms, another bath, and a library on the L-shaped balcony around the right side and back of the great room. Attached is the first floor sketch.
 

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OkeeDon

Congratulations, Looks like you’ve got your ducks lined up very well. You have a dream, the ability to make it happen, and now you’re moving ahead. It’s an inspiration to the rest of us who have the same or similar dreams.

Side note
In an old thread about Hardy Plank, you suggested using the electric shears for cutting instead of using a saw. When I built my garage years ago I used Hardy Plank and cut it with a saw. Man the dust cloud you create with a saw is bad, and especially for someone like me with asthma it’s is really bad! About 2 months ago I did an entire building with Hardy plank, and from your suggestion I used the porter cable shears. What a difference, no dust cloud, and no having to wear a dust mask. For me a life saver. THANKS!!!

Fred
 
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I'm looking forward to following your posts on the construction. Nothing more exiting then a new project!!!

Eddie
 
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Thats a great project Don and I look forward to seeing pictures as things move along.

I was wondering what it cost to have your pasture fence installed around your property?

Stu
 

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