Big tractor syndrome

   / Big tractor syndrome #141  
Well stated. I think the diversity of users on here is very broad. There are posters in this thread that own their tractors for the sole purpose of making a living. Then there are posters in this thread that own their tractors for the sole purpose of fullfilling a dream. One size tractor is not going to fill those two needs. And those two needs come with opposite expectations. I'd say in 90% of the cases, you'll see buyers buy too small versus too big. As the new tractor owner uses it more he realizes his "to-do" list has grown along with his expectations.
 
   / Big tractor syndrome #142  
Yep, and what looked so big at the dealer seems smaller as you get used to it and start working the ground. The earth is a big heavy planet. Hard to move it sometimes.
 
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#143  
Well stated. I think the diversity of users on here is very broad. There are posters in this thread that own their tractors for the sole purpose of making a living. Then there are posters in this thread that own their tractors for the sole purpose of fullfilling a dream. One size tractor is not going to fill those two needs. And those two needs come with opposite expectations. I'd say in 90% of the cases, you'll see buyers buy too small versus too big. As the new tractor owner uses it more he realizes his "to-do" list has grown along with his expectations.

Very true, and that might just happen to me as time goes on....but on the other hand it may be all I ever need. I think a great many people say you are going to out grow that small machine. That may be true. But I also think a great many people decide that they "need" that bigger machine not based on the work that they are doing but because they want it....nothing wrong with that. I know I only have 20hrs on my machine but I struggle to think what else I would need or want to do that would require a larger machine....and I bet many with 5ac don't have a real need for a larger machine.
 
   / Big tractor syndrome #144  
Well some of us are afflicted with a syndrome. It's either a frontal lobotomy or buy something bigger than we need. Yep, just overcompensating I guess.
 
   / Big tractor syndrome #145  
Having the Deere 70 for the big pulls should help, are you going to keep it?
 
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#146  
Having the Deere 70 for the big pulls should help, are you going to keep it?

Yes...plans are for doing a total restore....now everything works, but it looks rode hard and put away wet.
 
   / Big tractor syndrome #147  
Needs and wants are two separate things!

Do I need to load 5 truck loads of fill this morning? Do I want to spend all day making a ramp just so I can reach the top of the dump with my small tractor? Do I want to get the job over and done with so I can spend some time with the kids or take my motorcycle out for a ride?

Yes many of us buy bigger but you have to consider that we know our lifestyle and understand the balance between our needs and wants. I went bigger as it will make my time doing the bigger jobs go much faster but then again I have been using tractors and heavy machinery since I was a young teenager and even back then wanted to do other things besides spend the entire day on one little project.

I know people who will never need a bigger machine but at the same time I also know more people who have spent thousands of dollars slowly going up in size simply wasting time and money to get the machine they should have gotten from the start. Its a balance between wants and needs !

My friend just purchased a new dump truck and now he realized he cant even load it all the way because his smaller machine cant reach. Guess what I did as the first job with my new machine?
 
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#148  
You are so right I have zero experience going into this, and I did ask questions and I questioned the answers. But you know what else that give me over someone that has bought hundreds of tractors before, had people in their past that farmed with a Mastodon. I have no bias. I can look at things from the outside in and make a judgement not based on color, or past, or fear of being laughed at. I can buy a claw hammer of a tool that will do just what I need it to do.

Now where my question came in was why did everyone save a very few people say machines of this type are too small, are toys, are over grown lawn mowers, will really not be able to do anything, good at nothing, badly made, poor quality......on and on. And after doing a little leg work on my own it seems these machines are just looked down upon.....I wanted to know if it was justified or if people put them down and talked up bigger machines, machines the size that they own(ed) are the "the smallest they would go".

What I mean by using that phrase is that (I) think that too much machine is suggested by people, not just here but everywhere. Is it an "up-sell". Did this all start with this little tractor thing that just about every manufacturer was sure no one wanted....Heck that is just a big lawn mower....if someone wants a tractor they will just buy a "real" tractor.....Is it that there is so little margin in the small machines that the dealers really don't want to sell them....They don't stock many, but it seemed at the farm show quite a few people were looking at the 1 series, max, BX, GC tractors. And by the most part the sales reps had little info on them, and would rather play on their tablets then talk to someone about a sub compact machine. Is this something that we (the buyers) of the little machines are just too stupid to know what is for our own good, and all of those videos on youtube of guys digging out mountains, and huge trees are all just doctored by the users to make themselves feel good about the machine.

If anyone does not care for the thread, not care for what I say in it, I ask a real question, I question the results and people get their nose bent out of shape....I have a tip if you don't like what I ask or say don't waste the bandwidth....just don't click.
 
   / Big tractor syndrome #149  
I don't like what you said. You don't like what I said. So what. You alienated yourself from several people who just tried to help you.
 
   / Big tractor syndrome #150  
I gotta agree with GP. Cherokee, seems you are the only person worked up about this.

If you are happy with your tractor, we are happy for you. But that doesn't mean that everyone else bought the wrong tractor. :)
 

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