Big Wood - Small Tractor.

[WranglerX]

Parbuckling is only good for use on open ground, but original question was aimed at how does one get downed trees out of restrictive areas to an area where some of the procedures mention (requiring space) can be applied...

Dale

 

[Jstpssng]

Yes, it's called parbuckling. There are a couple of threads on here about it.

Here's a couple descriptions of another method which uses a hinged arch across the back of the trailer:

This one shows a few pictures in action: Moving Logs

This is a longer thread with some build details: DanG-DeadHeader Log Lifter

I do not own one of these, but have seen one in use a few times. It worked well, requires only minimal modifications to the trailer, and was an inexpensive method of loading logs, especially if you already own a winch.

Woodmizer, and probably other sawmill manufacturers offer that as an option on some of their mills. The "kit" includes square tubing with cleats on it to roll the logs up; as well as a boat trailer style hand winch to do the work.

 

[Oldpath05]

Parbuckling is only good for use on open ground, but original question was aimed at how does one get downed trees out of restrictive areas to an area where some of the procedures mention (requiring space) can be applied...

Dale

Not so........... I use to take my atv with trailer right in the woods, very rough woods with trees all around, I drive up next to log then roll it on. Theres very few place a ATV will not fit or go, with a winch on front and back I could haul log out of some very gnarly places, places where my tractor cant get out of. Your just aware of how good parbucklng is and or where it can be used and or how big a log can be loaded, I easily loaded 16'-6x 16" top end on my trailer and unloading is just as easy, all with just a boat winch.

 

[WranglerX]

Not so........... I use to take my atv with trailer right in the woods, very rough woods with trees all around, I drive up next to log then roll it on. Theres very few place a ATV will not fit or go, with a winch on front and back I could haul log out of some very gnarly places, places where my tractor cant get out of. Your just aware of how good parbucklng is and or where it can be used and or how big a log can be loaded, I easily loaded 16'-6x 16" top end on my trailer and unloading is just as easy, all with just a boat winch.

Please explain to me how I can get parbuckling rig in close to remove tree in picture... Yes it's the "Y" shaped one in center of pic... It's oak its very dead and there is no safe ground to use chainsaw to cut from.... And there is a creek about 3 feet behind where pic was taken from so it precludes getting a tractor Jeep with winch in there....

Dale

 

[Gee Ray]

And you could find a picture of a thousand trees that it could work on.

 

[WranglerX]

And you could find a picture of a thousand trees that it could work on.

Sure, but this my tree and my concern...

Dale

 

[Sawyer Rob]

You will find many MANY more times that it will work for even one that it doesn't!

SR

 

[Oldpath05]

Please explain to me how I can get parbuckling rig in close to remove tree in picture... Yes it's the "Y" shaped one in center of pic... It's oak its very dead and there is no safe ground to use chainsaw to cut from.... And there is a creek about 3 feet behind where pic was taken from so it precludes getting a tractor Jeep with winch in there....

Dale

What about that place where the red lines are, looks like my ATV trailer would fit there nicely..........


All I need to do is winch those trees to that spot where the red lines are, then I would parbuckle them on my ATV trailer, a 5'x 8' spot for my ATV trailer is all I need, you mean to tell me you dont have 5'x 8' flat spot near any trees............ I have places like that here that's why I had a winch on my ATV, I could easily winch a 12"x 8' log, but a small tractor would work better to drag trees to a flat place and that is all there is to it.

Most small tractors I see could easily handle my ATV trailer, I have a couple of these old pictures, just cant find a picture where I have my parbuckling set up on it, this trailer is 4' wide, 7-1/2' long and it can fit in a very small place.

I now use a Rhino to pull my ATV trailer and load with tractor, parbuckling takes very little room. Rhino with trailer - YouTube

 

[Jstpssng]

I don't remember if the question has been asked or answered: but what do you plan to do with the wood afterwards? If you are going to just burn or landfill it, you might find it easier to make a path and haul the wood in a trailer.

 

[WranglerX]

What about that place where the red lines are, looks like my ATV trailer would fit there nicely..........
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All I need to do is winch those trees to that spot where the red lines are, then I would parbuckle them on my ATV trailer, a 5'x 8' spot for my ATV trailer is all I need, you mean to tell me you dont have 5'x 8' flat spot near any trees............ I have places like that here that's why I had a winch on my ATV, I could easily winch a 12"x 8' log, but a small tractor would work better to drag trees to a flat place and that is all there is to it.

Most small tractors I see could easily handle my ATV trailer, I have a couple of these old pictures, just cant find a picture where I have my parbuckling set up on it, this trailer is 4' wide, 7-1/2' long and it can fit in a very small place.

I now use a Rhino to pull my ATV trailer and load with tractor, parbuckling takes very little room. Rhino with trailer - YouTube

Because there is no way to get a trailer in there and the depth perception of camera is poor as tree is almost 75-80 feet from you marked location....

So far only solution seems to be having tree professionally dropped (risk factor because of area around tree trunk) and the cut to fireplace length and hand packed out....

Dale

 

[WranglerX]

I don't remember if the question has been asked or answered: but what do you plan to do with the wood afterwards? If you are going to just burn or landfill it, you might find it easier to make a path and haul the wood in a trailer.

Make a path?.... Those boulder are as big as a car....

Burn it of course... We do get some cold here....

Dale

 

[John_Mc]

Please explain to me how I can get parbuckling rig in close to remove tree in picture... Yes it's the "Y" shaped one in center of pic... It's oak its very dead and there is no safe ground to use chainsaw to cut from.... And there is a creek about 3 feet behind where pic was taken from so it precludes getting a tractor Jeep with winch in there....

Dale

Parbuckling is primarily a loading method, not a retrieval method.

Name any technique, and you will eventually come across something that it will not work on. If you are looking for a one-size fits all retrieval and loading method, please let the rest of us know when you've found it.

 

[Oldpath05]

Because there is no way to get a trailer in there and the depth perception of camera is poor as tree is almost 75-80 feet from you marked location....

So far only solution seems to be having tree professionally dropped (risk factor because of area around tree trunk) and the cut to fireplace length and hand packed out....

Dale

Well maybe your woodlot is in the wrong thread location, it's sounding more and more like you need a dynamite licence and one of these.................................

 

[Oldpath05]

Parbuckling is primarily a loading method, not a retrieval method.

Name any technique, and you will eventually come across something that it will not work on. If you are looking for a one-size fits all retrieval and loading method, please let the rest of us know when you've found it.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

 

[plumbstraight]

I posted these a while ago for ideas
The electric and had as seen above

 

[oosik]

For 27 years I used my Ford 1700 4WD to move large lengths of Ponderosa pine logs. Go back 3 to 4 feet on the log. Drive in a large spike on top of the log - I used railroad spikes. Wrap a long chain around the log and behind the spike. This chain will be attached to the drawbar. Secure the lower links at their widest. Run a chain between the lower links.

Back the tractor - drop the lower links to their lowest - put the chain that's between the lower links under the log - pull the towing chain tight and attach to the drawbar. Raise the lower links and log. Drive off carefully - towing the log.

I thought about purchasing some type of "log cradle". Instead I traded in the Ford and got a Kubota M6040. Now I just use a chain attached to the drawbar. My property is very open - no need for snatch blocks, etc. Just attach and go.

 

[WranglerX]

Well maybe your woodlot is in the wrong thread location, it's sounding more and more like you need a dynamite licence and one of these.................................
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Its not a wood lot.... Its a single tree that is in a very awkward location that need to be remove because it is now a torch waiting to be lit in the dry Sierra Nevada Mountains of Cali where forest fire danger are listed as "extreme".......

 

[oosik]

OK, DL. So...... do I get this right. You have ONE tree that you need to move.

Small tractor, no problem - cut the trunk into small pieces.

I have a green wood weight chart. I can tell you, pretty close, how much a foot length of about any green tree will weigh.

Do you have a bucket or grapple on the FEL. NO - then you will have to drag out chunks one at a time.

Is the tree green or dead? What species? What's the diameter at the base? Surely your tractor can drag a 500# chunk of trunk. Just need to figure the lengths to cut the trunk to get 500# chunks.

You will wrap a chain or rope around the chunk tightly. Attach the chain or rope to your drawbar. Go like the wind.

 

[plumbstraight]

yes it is an 8000lb on the jd and an 10000 on the kioti. Having the boom on the jd sure is handy for lifting one end. Much easier for dragging and saves saw chains.