So far this has been a nigtmare, first the frost plug fell inside the block before I could catch it (I did recover it after some hard work+bad words)now I find that i do not even have the clearance I need to even install the heater element in the flange. Can anyone give me some suggestions or tell me what part that is in my way? Oil came out when I removed the black bolt? (see pic)
Block heater install help
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prosperity
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What tractor is this?
It looks like you are on the left side of the engine.
On my 2210, the block heater went in the right side......
It looks like you are on the left side of the engine.
On my 2210, the block heater went in the right side......
4010, it is the right side that I am working on right above the oil filter. I belive the part I am looking at (the one thats in the way)is the governer. The dealer shows a part that wil replace the cover with a flat one, see this site web page
But what happens to the long bolt?
But what happens to the long bolt?
trlong
Platinum Member
chliansh,
I do not know what the difference is between the location of the frost plug, and installation of the block heater on a 2210 vs. 4010. However, the webpage/instructions and pictures you posted are for a 2210. Are you sure your dealer gave you the correct heater kit? Perhaps the motor/layout is the same but, if you have a part that is interfering with the new heater, my guess is wrong kit, wrong instructions...??? I've installed block heaters on numerous vehicles (cars, trucks, ...). It has always been a relatively straight forward process if I had the correct kit. I'd re-check with the dealer and with J.D. service if needed to be sure you're not fighting a no-win battle with the wrong part.
Good luck,
Tom
I do not know what the difference is between the location of the frost plug, and installation of the block heater on a 2210 vs. 4010. However, the webpage/instructions and pictures you posted are for a 2210. Are you sure your dealer gave you the correct heater kit? Perhaps the motor/layout is the same but, if you have a part that is interfering with the new heater, my guess is wrong kit, wrong instructions...??? I've installed block heaters on numerous vehicles (cars, trucks, ...). It has always been a relatively straight forward process if I had the correct kit. I'd re-check with the dealer and with J.D. service if needed to be sure you're not fighting a no-win battle with the wrong part.
Good luck,
Tom
trlong
Platinum Member
chliansh,
I just checked J.D.'s 4010 parts ("Block Heater" (Optional)) and it appears you have the right part number. Guess I don't know why you run into an obstruction. Hope some one else can provide guidance.
Good luck,
Tom
I just checked J.D.'s 4010 parts ("Block Heater" (Optional)) and it appears you have the right part number. Guess I don't know why you run into an obstruction. Hope some one else can provide guidance.
Good luck,
Tom
R_a_n_d_y
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I have installed block heater in 2210. Here's the web page
Even on the 2210 you must install the heater element into the adapter then install on engine. You may or may not need the governor case cover. On 2210 their's no need for it. From your picture I can not tell the distance from the cover to block heater. Take out the adapter and install the heater element into the adapter and then see if you can install it on engine. I hope this help a little.
Even on the 2210 you must install the heater element into the adapter then install on engine. You may or may not need the governor case cover. On 2210 their's no need for it. From your picture I can not tell the distance from the cover to block heater. Take out the adapter and install the heater element into the adapter and then see if you can install it on engine. I hope this help a little.
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trlong
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cliansh,
Let me know if you're still stumped. I have tomorrow (Thurs.) off and will be near my dealer. Up here, they install block heaters on most every CUT and full size they sell, so I'm pretty sure they'd have run into the issue and know the solution.
Tom
Let me know if you're still stumped. I have tomorrow (Thurs.) off and will be near my dealer. Up here, they install block heaters on most every CUT and full size they sell, so I'm pretty sure they'd have run into the issue and know the solution.
Tom
trlong
Platinum Member
cliansh,
Still trying to help figure this out. Looking at J.D.'s 4010 parts site for "Block Heater (Optional)", there are some significantly different part numbers than the 2210 Block Heater parts you attached.
JD 4010 Block Heater
I have a call in to my dealer's mechanic but am waiting for a call back.
I took a look at mine on the 4115 and don't think it is very helpful as it is located on the opposite side of the motor (right side from view, standing in front of tractor, looking toward motor and seat. However, I did look at the left side and found there appears to be another plug, just above the fuel filter (looks alot like your pic). I am attaching pic's of my placement (opposite side from fuel filter). Is it possible you had two options and the one you chose (ala 2210) is the wrong side for a 4010?
Tom
Still trying to help figure this out. Looking at J.D.'s 4010 parts site for "Block Heater (Optional)", there are some significantly different part numbers than the 2210 Block Heater parts you attached.
JD 4010 Block Heater
I have a call in to my dealer's mechanic but am waiting for a call back.
I took a look at mine on the 4115 and don't think it is very helpful as it is located on the opposite side of the motor (right side from view, standing in front of tractor, looking toward motor and seat. However, I did look at the left side and found there appears to be another plug, just above the fuel filter (looks alot like your pic). I am attaching pic's of my placement (opposite side from fuel filter). Is it possible you had two options and the one you chose (ala 2210) is the wrong side for a 4010?
Tom
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trlong
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trlong
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cliansh,
Just talked to my mechanic. Here's his take on what is needed:
AM882530 Kit (Screws, Gasket & Adapter) [believe you have this]
AR87167 Kit (Heater & Power Cord) [Think you said you also have this]
M89154 (no description I could find, anywhere on JD website(s))
805705 (no description I could find, anywhere on JD wbsite(s))
His description is that the "adapter" should set the element back far enough from the interior parts to allow proper clearance.
Good luck...wish I could have found descriptions/pictures of those other two parts.
Tom
Just talked to my mechanic. Here's his take on what is needed:
AM882530 Kit (Screws, Gasket & Adapter) [believe you have this]
AR87167 Kit (Heater & Power Cord) [Think you said you also have this]
M89154 (no description I could find, anywhere on JD website(s))
805705 (no description I could find, anywhere on JD wbsite(s))
His description is that the "adapter" should set the element back far enough from the interior parts to allow proper clearance.
Good luck...wish I could have found descriptions/pictures of those other two parts.
Tom
Thanks trlong,
My dealer did get back to me and said the official instructions on the 4010 block heater install "discard the extra parts that are no longer needed" Its a a part of the injector pump that is supposedly not needed? Still seems odd to me but I guess I have to go that route.
My dealer did get back to me and said the official instructions on the 4010 block heater install "discard the extra parts that are no longer needed" Its a a part of the injector pump that is supposedly not needed? Still seems odd to me but I guess I have to go that route.
trlong
Platinum Member
cliansh,
Great. Let us know how it works out. This thread could be a valuable time saver for others installing the heater on a 4010 and scratching their heads as to why it doesn't fit, as is. Does seem odd though, as you say, to have to discard a part that is "no longer needed".
Tom
Great. Let us know how it works out. This thread could be a valuable time saver for others installing the heater on a 4010 and scratching their heads as to why it doesn't fit, as is. Does seem odd though, as you say, to have to discard a part that is "no longer needed".
Tom
