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chupacabra

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iseki 1300TX
I have the Iseki 1300tx, which weighs about 1000 pounds and I want to get a small boom to use with my 3 point. How much weight can I pick up without any weight on the front? Thanks.
 
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It will depend on lifting point you are using.

Say, a 10 ft boom, is rated for 500 lbs at 10 ft, and at half that distance, you could lift twice as much and at 1/4 the distance, lift even more.

If you have 1000 lbs in front of the rear axles, There is a certain distance that you could lift 1000 lbs.

The center of the boom could lift about 500 lbs. At the end , maybe 125 lbs.

If you use weights on the front, that could change things, and would be based on your hyd power.

Purchase on like this or make one for your tractor. Just use any of the lifting points you have that will let you drive with 4 wheels on the ground.
 

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Go here and see if you can find your model tractor and any info on it......

Good luck

tractordata.com
 
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You can lift 838 lbs at the ends of the 3pt.

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: 0
Rear lift (at ends): 838 lbs [380 kg

Iseki 1300tx specs
 
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It says I have 838 lbs. of lift at the ends. So does this mean I can lift an 838 pound object at the lift ends? Without any weights on the front. Or what? Then what does it mean with a boom? I could lift the same amount at the end of the boom? Kind of confusing to me to try to figure it out. I want to lift a 500 pound engine and put it on an engine stand. How do I figure this out?
 
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It says I have 838 lbs. of lift at the ends. So does this mean I can lift an 838 pound object at the lift ends? Without any weights on the front. Or what? Then what does it mean with a boom? I could lift the same amount at the end of the boom? Kind of confusing to me to try to figure it out. I want to lift a 500 pound engine and put it on an engine stand. How do I figure this out?
Tractor rear lift ratings are typically at 24" back behind the lift point. The lift point is usually considered straight down from the upper lift arms.

Boom poles are usually 6 or 8 feet long, and rated in increments of 500, 1000, or 2000 pounds. Most have have two fastening points, one at the end, the other about half way. And the lift rating is usually that of the one in the middle. Don't think you've got enough weight at the front end to lift 500 pounds 6 or 8 feet back. But it might work with a 1000 pound 8 footer if you lift from the middle.

//greg//
 
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I'm no physicist, but.....If your whole tractor weighs 1000 lbs and you plan on lifting a 500 lb engine, which will probably be at the end of an 8ft boom pole,...........then you better get some balast on the other end of that tractor. Just my guesstimation...... Be Safe First.
 
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It says I have 838 lbs. of lift at the ends. So does this mean I can lift an 838 pound object at the lift ends? Without any weights on the front. Or what? Then what does it mean with a boom? I could lift the same amount at the end of the boom? Kind of confusing to me to try to figure it out. I want to lift a 500 pound engine and put it on an engine stand. How do I figure this out?

Ok.. I don't want to rain on your plans, BUT. please think it through. your whole tractor just weighs 1000 lbs or thereabouts. you cannot stick a 500 lb engine 6 or 8 foot out the back. and not expect the front end to come up off of the ground and the engine to stay put.. the 838 lbs on the 3pt means that is how much it will lift at the ends of the 3pt. not stuck out there anothe 6 or 8 foot. AND. it does not say that it will lift that without proper ballast on the front. That rating is just the maximum hydraulic rating before the relief valve goes into relief. you would probably need at least a few hundred pounds on the front to pick up that 838 lbs , and even then this tractor is going to be severly overloaded.. With my 6600 lb tractor and a boom pole at 6 or 8 foot out there the 500 lb engine is going to be a nice load. and would need care in movement. I really think your tractor is just too small to pickup such a load stuck out on the end of a boom pole safely. how about you rent an engine hoist. to pull the engine. or rig up an "A" frame out of 3 stought timbers tied at the top with a chain, and a 30 dollar chain hoist. or come-a-long to get the thing up out of the engine bay. ? I really think you are going a bridge too far with a 1000 lb tractor and a boom pole trying to lift 500 lbs. Let alone without front ballast. I bet your tractor's wheelebase is less than the boom pole.. how in heck could you possibley lift 500 lbs stuck out back 6 to 8 foot to get the lift height you need without putting at least some serious weight on the front. even if your wheelbase is 6 foot... Does that make sense.. I would be willing to bet if you put on just the boom pole I could grab the boom pole and pull down and raise the front end of your tractor (I am pretty fat, but not 500 lbs:ashamed:) Again sorry, but this is the way I see it.. I think you need to come up with another way to do this job. Please be careful, and the best of luck.

James K0UA
 
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If you can lift 838 lbs at 24 in, then you can lift 446 lbs at 48 in .

You can lift 500 lbs at 40 in.

If you try to exceed these limits, you will need some weight on the front, that is if the hyd are capable.
 
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Keep in mind the 3pt arms will often support more weight than they can lift.

so its possible to lift the empty boom pole to max height then attach a cable come-a-long to the end (or middle) to lift the engine.

All the other comments about needing additional weight at the front still stand.
 
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J.J. is correct. Laws of physics tell you that the weight a boom pole can lift is proportional to the distance from the fulcrum. Your tractor acts as the counter weight. If your tractor is 1000 lbs and it's center of gravity is "x" inches forward of the 3 pt fulcrum then you can calculate how much weight you can put on the 3 pt arms before the tractor tips over backwards. The hard part is figuring out where the center of gravity is.

At any rate, don't lift a 500 lb engine with a 1000 lb tractor with a boom pole without counter weights, and your 3pt won't handle that weight anyway.

How did I end up at a thread that is several days old? I'm designing a boom pole for my DK45SE to lift several 6x12 beams that are 12-16' long about 15' high. My FEL w/ forks will only lift about 9' high. The FEL lift capacity to full height at pivot pins is 2,761 lbs. The number I'm really interested in is the curl capacity of the bucket at "x" distance from the pivot pins. Then I could calculate the lift capacity of a 12' or 16' boom pole. Anybody have an answer? My guess is that it should easily lift a <200 lb beam.

For reference: my tractor is about 4000 lbs w/ ballast in the tires (+700 lbs x 2) + backhoe (~700 lbs).

The boom pole would be a 4x4" sandwiched with lumber between the forks, and lifting mechanism would be 2 cables from the end of the boom to the ends of round bar stock (see pic of forks).

Marcus

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Keep in mind the 3pt arms will often support more weight than they can lift.

so its possible to lift the empty boom pole to max height then attach a cable come-a-long to the end (or middle) to lift the engine.

All the other comments about needing additional weight at the front still stand.

That's the way I have mine set up. A little more versatile.
 
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careful not to exceed max 3 point capability of your tractor. Adding more counterweight to the front may give you a false sense of security. Just because the front end doesn't come off the ground doesn't mean that you have exceeded the capability of your tractor.
 
 

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