Boosting hydraulic pressure

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Safest way to increase the force without harming the old low pressure system in that Deere is to mount a larger diameter cylinder to the splitter. Just going from a 4”to 5” diameter cylinder would increase the force from ~15000lbs to about ~23500lbs which is over a 50% increase. Only drawback is it would slow the cyl stroke time by about 50% also, if that matters to you.
Depending on how I hooked up the hoses, it would travel normal speed or very slow. Do you think the "slow" hookup had more pressure?
 
   / Boosting hydraulic pressure
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#12  
If you are thinking of pumps....


Keep in mind you may only need 5-10 HP for low volume pups....

Also reservoir and filter assembly....



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Could the tractor reservoir be utilized for the external pump, using the tractor hose couplers, or wouldn't it draw oil through the tractor pump?
 
   / Boosting hydraulic pressure #13  
Could the tractor reservoir be utilized for the external pump, using the tractor hose couplers, or wouldn't it draw oil through the tractor pump?
Personally I don't think you can draw through tractor pump without tractor running , you are going to use log splitter pump I would try to tap the reservoir directly and keep "tractor system" (pump) out of the arrangement....
 
   / Boosting hydraulic pressure #14  
Could the tractor reservoir be utilized for the external pump, using the tractor hose couplers, or wouldn't it draw oil through the tractor pump?
No you cannot draw oil through the pump and couplers on you tractor.
 
   / Boosting hydraulic pressure #15  
Depending on how I hooked up the hoses, it would travel normal speed or very slow. Do you think the "slow" hookup had more pressure?
No , you’re relief valve setting will always be your high pressure limit. With the same gallons per minute flow the retract side of cyl will be faster than extend side. This is because the cylinder rod is taking up space on retract side and creating a smaller cavity to fill.
 
   / Boosting hydraulic pressure #16  
Just keep in mind that you would be adding an engine, pump, tank, filter, and possibly valve, plus a bunch of hoses and fittings. So essentially building most of a log splitter. You could probably buy a stand alone splitter for the same or less $$, and a lot less work.

As for your existing setup, I would first get a gauge on the hydraulics and see what pressure you are reaching vs the tractor specs. As earlier suggested, the pressure may be low relative to specs, and bringing it up to spec will improve performance. I would not increase it any more than 10-15% over spec, and I'd think twice about doing even that. Any tractor damage caused by the higher pressure may be difficult and expensive to fix on an older tractor with limited parts availability, etc.

Also as suggested earlier, the easiest "fix" is to increase the cylinder size. That would be a pretty easy and affordable swap. The down size is that the splitter will run slower, so you are trading time for splitting power.

If you are going to change to some other source of hydraulic power, whether driven by a separate engine or a PTO driven pump, I would carefully compare the costs vs buying a stand-alone splitter. I think you would be hard pressed to build a hydraulic system and pump for less than a purchased splitter. Hydraulic hoses alone will cost $50 to $200 each depending on size and pressure rating. And you would need to carefully figure out the flow, pressures and splitting force. including whether or not to use a 2 stage pump.
 

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