Box Blading in reverse

   / Box Blading in reverse #1  

Airic

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When using your box blade is it OK to push dirt in reverse? I have a blade on the back so, I assumed it was intended for this. I have found that I have bent my upper 3 point link and it could of only been done by going in reverse. I don't feel I done anything excessively when pushing and I don't believe I致e hit a solid object. It's always a slow push anyway and I would think the force would be applied to the whole 3-point and not just the upper link.

I've been cutting in for a turnaround driveway and the edges stay high because of when going forward on outside of the turnaround bend the box does not stay up on the cut in edge. The way I've handling this is doing the outside edge by going in reverse and I can then keep the box along the cut in edge.

Is this wrong to do? Of anything to be the week point I prefer it to be this top link.
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #2  
Is it wrong to push dirt in reverse? Well, I've read here on TBN of people bending the two lower links as well as the top link. I think it's pretty obvious that the 3-point hitch is designed for pulling, not pushing, so you just might damage something pushing; it happens. So . . ., would I recommend it? Nope. But did I do it myself? Yep, lots of times. Maybe I was just lucky, but I never damaged anything and I've even tried to push when it just wouldn't go anymore; just spin the wheels, but of course I never charged into something and hit with a hard, sudden impact.
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #3  
Airic,

I got away with pushing a 5 foot blade in reverse for 3 years. Since they make the blade on a swivel with several angle adjustment holes for pulling or pushing, I thought it was o.k. too. I also had a degree of comfort when I looked at the thickness of the lower links and would not have believed there would be a force strong enough to bend them, but........I was pushing snow with it and hit a hard packed snow bank this winter pushing the blade in reverse and bent my lower link. Of course, this all happened before I discovered TBN and started reading about how many others have done this.

I haven't learned much, I still push snow with it, but I'm more cautious (OCD and paranoid about it really) and I don't ram the snow banks anymore with it in reverse.

I guess my answer to your question is that it can be done, but I can't find anywhere, or anyone, that recommends it.

Dyer, retired
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #4  
I pushed over 25 Cedar trees in the pasture this weekend with a rear blade. Raise it up high and the tree will tip and the roots will kick out of the ground. When the roots are up, then hook under them and push up and back. Pops them right out. I too watch it carefully, but I know that steel will yield when the appropriate load is applied. I have pushed tons of manure as a youngster on the farm. Just be careful and don't act suprised if it breaks.

John
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #5  
Some guys refer to the lower links as "drag links" and that's what they're designed for. I push a lot in reverse and ended up bending mine too. I found it quite an excellent technique however. So I straightened them out and welded a thick reinforcement plate on the bottoms to keep them from bending. They now look like and upside down "T". Nevertheless, I would be careful as to how much pressure you put pushing in reverse.
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #6  
I would concur with the other posters on here. If your just pushing soft loose dirt you probably won't bend anything but if you hit something solid you might bend it again. The hitch is for pulling for the most part. :)
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #8  
Sure you can push, but do be careful.

Also, you need to change the angle of attack (front to back tilt) as it is different pulling vs pushing. Pushing you want the box dead level to slightly butt high. Pulling you want it the other way - level to nose high.

A hydraulic top link is worth it if you are going from pull to push to pull to push!

jb
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #9  
3RRL said:
Some guys refer to the lower links as "drag links" and that's what they're designed for. I push a lot in reverse and ended up bending mine too. I found it quite an excellent technique however. So I straightened them out and welded a thick reinforcement plate on the bottoms to keep them from bending. They now look like and upside down "T". Nevertheless, I would be careful as to how much pressure you put pushing in reverse.

3RRL,

Do you by chance have any pictures you could post of the reinforcement. Also, how did you go about straightening the links, I'm assuming torch and anvil? Mine did not bend bad enough to stop using, but I look at it and it drives me nuts! I'd like to reinforce it like you have described and have access to welding equipment and a welder, once I get the link straight. I have no intention of getting too confident once it's reinforced and will still take it cautiously, but would like to have it look right in the meantime. I'll need an answer soon....winter is on it's way, ha! Dyer, retired
 
   / Box Blading in reverse #10  
ive pushed with mine. but i was trying to skim an area that i couldnt drag through and it chattered a lot. (i also have a fairly light weight box blade)
 
 

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