Brands to Avoid??

[flienlow]

Brands to Avoid??

New Kids to the Big boy equipment world. Everybody seems to be in bed with everyone else. We are looking to buy a 35-40 size Mini Excavator and Smaller Compact Track Loader.

So far the iron that looks attractive to us would be:

CTL- JD 317G
MINI- Yanmar VIO Series.

Both of these are sold at a local JD dealer. Local Kubota Dealer is full of incompetent low-wage buffoons so I am not big on buying anymore Orange Iron from them. We are not sure of bobcat quality, and cat is local as well. We also have the "me too" dealers with Mustang, Sany, Wacker,Takeuchi ect.

Trying to avoid costly mistakes.

Any advice?

 

[Industrial Toys]

From what I have heard, you won't go wrong with the Yanmar.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

Brands to Avoid??

New Kids to the Big boy equipment world. Everybody seems to be in bed with everyone else. We are looking to buy a 35-40 size Mini Excavator and Smaller Compact Track Loader.

So far the iron that looks attractive to us would be:

CTL- JD 317G
MINI- Yanmar VIO Series.

Both of these are sold at a local JD dealer. Local Kubota Dealer is full of incompetent low-wage buffoons so I am not big on buying anymore Orange Iron from them. We are not sure of bobcat quality, and cat is local as well. We also have the "me too" dealers with Mustang, Sany, Wacker,Takeuchi ect.

Trying to avoid costly mistakes.[URL="

Any advice?

Run down to Puyallup and see Jennings Equipment for Kubota. They are on River Road just off R 167. Their core business is large farmers and contractors. Talk to Andy in sales, tell him Ron Vietmeier sent you there. He knows his equipment and has operated all of it himself. Buying two large pieces he will treat you right. Goggle their web site.

 

[Todd727]

Takeuchi is good stuff.

 

[jd4310man]

I would say anything made by the Japanese, they take pride in their products. My favorite brand is Yanmar. Which ever brand you choose, make sure the dealer will work with you. You can have the "best" product in the world but if the dealer is no good. you will be on your own.

 

[Snobdds]

Takeuchi is good stuff.

I love my cat, but the takeuchi is fine machine as well.

 

[WorkBootD]

Yanmar is a solid choice on the mini!

 

[Rmart30]

Stay away from anything JCB or TEREX dirt equipment.

 

[bullbreaker]

Even though i would imagine there married to other companies power plants etc like other brands, anybody care to comment on the newer ASV track loaders ? I think there 65 hp stuff is powered by Kubota , and two of there bigger models are powered by Cummins . Just asking not trying to start a feud .....

 

[CADplans]

Even though i would imagine there married to other companies power plants etc like other brands,

anybody care to comment on the newer ASV track loaders ?

I think there 65 hp stuff is powered by Kubota , and two of there bigger models are powered by Cummins . Just asking not trying to start a feud .....

My neighbor bought a REAL nice ASV skid steer,,

It was perfect in dirt,, but, if the machine was operated on gravel, the gravel would QUICKLY destroy the bogie wheels.

I believe the wheels were rubber rather than steel, the machine would quickly self destruct on gravel,,,

Even with that knowledge, another neighbor purchased the machine.
He only ran it on dirt, so it was great for him,,,

 

[Richard]

Stay away from anything JCB or TEREX dirt equipment.

I don't know if you mean a specific item or the brand....but I've owed a JCB backhoe/loader for something like 15 or more years. Bought it used of course...

I've replaced:

exhaust pipe
Repacked all cylinders over time
Replaced a couple hoses that I burst when i snagged them
Heck, I still have some of the hoses that were on it when I bought it
Replaced fuel sending unit
That's most of what I can think of.

Thing is strong, digs deep and runs like a swiss watch.... gotta love that Perkins.

I am 'just a home owner' and don't use it for commercial use so maybe that comes into play (??)

After the experience I've had thus-far, I would not avoid a JCB as a brand.... perhaps a specific unit is trashed, but I've had a very good experience with my unit.

 

[Paystar]

I also have a friend that has an old JCB and it has been good and trouble. But I knew two guys that had those backhoes with the 4 big tires and four wheel steering from the early 90's? and they had lots of electronic issues with them. So they got caught where they couldn't put them into gear because it was electronic.
So I don't know how the new ones are now. But they sure have a lot of nice design features in them.

The problem here is complete lack of dealers. So people here complain of parts availability.

I sure love that new 1CXT though. It's a cross between a CTL and a backhoe.

 

[Rmart30]

I don't know if you mean a specific item or the brand....but I've owed a JCB backhoe/loader for something like 15 or more years. Bought it used of course...

I've replaced:

exhaust pipe
Repacked all cylinders over time
Replaced a couple hoses that I burst when i snagged them
Heck, I still have some of the hoses that were on it when I bought it
Replaced fuel sending unit
That's most of what I can think of.

Thing is strong, digs deep and runs like a swiss watch.... gotta love that Perkins.

I am 'just a home owner' and don't use it for commercial use so maybe that comes into play (??)

After the experience I've had thus-far, I would not avoid a JCB as a brand.... perhaps a specific unit is trashed, but I've had a very good experience with my unit.

Ive worked on construction/rental equipment of all types. I worked for a JCB dealer and they were very problematic with electrical problems when we had them.
JCB and terex both have some parts sourcing, extremely high parts costs or wait times for delivery issues.
A terex 760 backhoe is a much better digging machine than say a case 580 due to weight difference. But even though they are great while they are working they are a pain when they go bad unless its just something simple.

 

[BrokenTrack]

All machines break down, so you want to avoid problems with parts availability and servicing.

If you have a sucky Caterpillar Dealer, then it would be in your best interest to avoid that machine, and likewise any other dealership that sucks. (I am not slamming Cat here, I am just using that as an example).

Myself, I am not brand-loyal, and actually love John Deere, but as everyone in the industry knows, their parts are just plain Bovine Pasture Droppings. They are outrageously expensive, though they are a dream to operate. Parts that should cost $30, cost $90, and then there is that whole Supreme Court nonsense that they semi-lost/semi-won that still makes my blood boil. I am still boycotting them for that reason.

So really that is the kind of stuff that you should be finding out.

Like JCB; I don't want to turn this into brand-bashing, but I have heard from owners that due to the importation cost of parts, that is a machine to avoid. It is not that they are not good machines, but parts cost like John Deere parts...really high...and you want to avoid that.