Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner

   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner #11  
Nice setup. Sounds like you hit the ground running with attachments too.

Keep us posted on how your projects are going along and welcome aboard.
 
   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner
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#12  
Note - one of the pros in past reviews of Branson tractors are comments that the tractor body is all metal, no plastic. This is no longer true, at least for the cab models 5520C and 5520CH. The rear fenders are red plastic (like the orange Kioti and Kubota), lower trim around the cab roof underside is black plastic, and I suspect the red rooftop is a fiberglass material (somebody please correct me if I’m wrong). I was a bit disappointed with the fenders, but that’s a minor issue, and no different in the other brands I looked at, thus not a con for comparison.

rademamj1 - thanks for the comments on implements! I view implement planning a lot like selecting a scope for your hunting rifle… plan to spend at least half of your rifle price on the scope if not more, and plan to buy a bunch of ammo, as a hunting rifle without a scope and ammo is of limited utility. If you budget accordingly for a tractor, a new owner with several implements can get a lot of return on that investment by using the tractor to do work that would otherwise be hired out (assuming similar goals for wide ranging use cases on a ranch, hobby farm, etc.). I’m hoping to put hundreds if not thousands of hours on this tractor, and not have it found years from now as a “low hour barn find!”

LouNY - thanks for the feedback on the cutting edge; I’ll avoid using the bucket until installing the additional edge, so as not to dimple/warp/dent the bottom of the bucket.

ptsg - yes, I like the idea of the new 4-range gear selection with HST on the Branson 5520, but I’ll know more as seat time increases. Maybe the tractor is still new and stiff, but changing ranges isn’t as smooth as I’d like. It takes some work to get into a couple of the positions, occasionally needing to tap the pedals. When I first test drove a 5520 at a dealership, the tractor I climbed into was "new-off-the-truck” from earlier that afternoon, and I found it had a frozen or locked range selector. The dealer checked it, stated it needed a repair or shipping block removed (maybe the new model was so new the staging crew weren’t up to speed yet on what to do), and it was announced fixed the next morning. All in all, I’m hopefully optimistic about the new 4-range feature Branson has introduced versus the traditional 3-ranges found on most tractors in this class.
 
   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner #13  
A big congratulations on your tractor package. Wishing you many years of quality service from your tractor. I loved the photos, and thanks alot for all the feedback.
 
   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner
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Various comments on attachments and implements:

The Branson bucket has sets of two holes at intervals along the bottom of the bucket to support bolt-on teeth or a cutting edge, but doesn’t support both (unless using a third-party tooth bar). I’m planning to add a cutting edge to the OEM bucket for soft work (spreading and back-dragging), and will purchase a third-party bucket that is purpose-built with teeth for digging tasks.

Agreed with others that have stated the rotary cutter is best for clearing wild brush, but flail mowers are attractive as they provide the same or better result when comparing rotary cutters to flail mowers in open fields. The extra length of a rotary cutter is great for backing into tall thickets, but that length is a negative when simply maneuvering for other purposes. After the property is tame, I’d prefer a flail mower. Rotary cutters raise concerns for me when turning that I've got to keep track of the long tail, and when driving down-up thru creeks and gullies of binding the PTO shaft. The extra length behind the tractor imposed by a rotary cutter requires the operator to be careful when turning near trees, buildings and other obstacles as it swings out and risks unexpectedly hitting things, and when crossing thru steep down-up terrain the tractor and rotary cutter may turn into a “V” that is too tight for the PTO shaft and couplers to accommodate, potentially resulting in serious damage to the gearbox, shaft, and/or tractor.

The idea of a flail mower on hydraulics that can be used to trim a border on steep slopes like berm inclines and bank declines is especially attractive, but that complexity is expensive and generally results in smaller cutting width, so I view them as a sophisticated solution that road crews and others require, but not something I can afford.

Agreed on post hole digger comments, as others have stated a rear-mounted 3PH auger is generally underwhelming in performance and hard to control for precise digging. Comments on TBN are why I opted for the front-mounted hydraulic drive auger with 2” hex coupler, which allows for down-pressure unlike most 3PH augers. I plan to use this implement to dig holes for tree saplings and fence posts, and bonus points if I can find an adapter to use this for helical pier installs to support decks and outbuildings.

Back to rotary cutters… I see some people describe using their shredder as rear ballast when using the front-end loader. A rotary cutter is often one of the heavier implements that people own, and its length far past the rear tires works well as a counter-weight. I don’t plan to use the rotary cutter for rear ballast when doing loader work, as I’m the type that *will* bang into things when working in tight corners, causing mayhem; best to avoid.

I’ll use a ballast box when extra weight is necessary for heavy loader work. eBay and online sites sell a 5-cubic-foot metal box that weighs about 100 pounds for less than $300 delivered, then you add cement or equivalent, making the box ~900 pounds when attached to the rear of the tractor. The Branson is already heavier than most in its class. Specs online suggest the 5520CH is ~4400 pounds. I bet the rig is north of 6000 pounds when you add the loader and filled tires, plus operator. The loader is rated to lift ~2,700 pounds, minus the weight of the bucket, grapple or forks, which indicates you can lift a ton and move it around. Nearly a half ton hanging off the back as a counter-weight using the ballast box (or other heavy 3PH implement) should help with lifting tasks.

Thanks much to the tips and advice provided by TBN!
 
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Thoughts on how I approached selecting implements:

First comparison criteria involved determining best value looking at price versus metal - what was the cost of the implement, how heavy was its build material, and was it available immediately. Price isn't applicable if the supply chain is indefinitely delayed with no delivery date due to COVID or other factors.

Second consideration focused on reviews or comments from owners online and local dealers.

Third input applied a positive bias for local manufacturers, especially small businesses versus large corporations. From my perspective, Made in Texas ranks first, Made in USA ranks second, Made by an Ally (e.g. Korea or India) ranks third, and Made in China best to avoid unless no other option is available/affordable. Economics is war without bullets.

Once I settled in on the decision for a Branson tractor, the preference for red and black paint weighed into selection as a tie-breaker on implements, if all other factors were equal. At a minimum, it was a requested detail when asking dealers about what inventory was available. Fortunately, most implements are available in a variety of colors, although some may require special order if the local dealer doesn't have red. Many people aren't too concerned with colors, but I'm not a fan of Skittles. I prefer a monotone sense of order for the tools in my world, especially if there isn't a dollar cost. Color-coordination presents a professional image to customers if you're planning to use the equipment for paid jobs, and generally looks clean-and-orderly in the shed, garage, barn, and when hauling down the highway.

The primary task for this tractor purchase is mowing and clearing brush, a recurring job to be performed multiple times per year, every year, and is the first job performed upon delivery. Therefore, the first implement to select is a rotary cutter. After the shredder is included in the budget, other implements are added to list. Any that don't make the initial purchase are set aside as future objectives, balanced against needs versus wants.

I purchased the Ag-Meier Bronco rotary cutter based on (1) its heavy build quality and rating to cut 2.5-inch material, (2) a local dealer that sold multiple brands highly recommended it, (3) a customer at the dealership seconded the positive experience, (4) it was available in red, and (5) manufactured by a small business in Texas! The Bronco was ~$2700 from Epperson Tractor near Waco.

Runner up for rotary cutter selection was the Rhino Twister TW36 that cuts 3-inch material at a cost of $3500 from a local Rhino dealer, Hanson Equipment in Lockhart. It was a tough decision between the two, as both the Ag-Meier and Rhino were in-stock and immediately available. I sent an email directly to Rhino and they replied the next business day, confirming the TW36 will work well with the Branson 5520CH ~47 HP PTO. Hanson was very helpful answering my questions about rotary cutters in general, and I hope to do business with them in the future as they're minutes away from the ranch.

If money wasn't a limiting factor, I would've gone for the Rhino rotary cutter due to its 3-inch cutting rating and weight, but opted for the Ag-Meier given its lower price point and hyper-local small-business manufacturing versus larger corporation. My minimum requirement was 2-inch material cutting, so this more than solved the need and left some dollars on the table for pallet forks, etc. In third place for shredders, I looked at the Titan Implement 1506, and the Modern Ag Super Highway, where Titan is a great price and Modern Ag is galvanized, but neither were available nearby in-stock.

Stepping up to a 7-ft shredder was also a consideration as there are some models available in the $2500~$3700 range, but I stuck with 6-ft to ensure an easy fit on the Falcon trailer. The width of 7-ft shredders probably won't fit within the rails of the trailer that I bought to haul the tractor. If/when I go larger at some future date (and have more than $10K to trade against mowing hours), I'll pursue a flex wing cutter like the Bush-Whacker MW-144, but that's probably only going to happen if I start a side hustle doing tractor work and shredding for others. A larger cutting deck or flex wing will likely require a new, wider trailer, which should be factored into the overall cost.

I purchased the Falcon Super Duty II 83x20 trailer due to its excellent entry-level price point at $3500 for a twin 5400# axle trailer with 7000# jack, capable of hauling ~10,000 pounds, made in Texas by a family-owned business that values the honor of a handshake, and Epperson Tractor had it available in red. A larger trailer up front would've been a good idea, but it'll likely be years before I can quit working for the man and start doing tractor work for others, so for now, a rarely used trailer is best not to over-spend.
 
   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner #16  
Madgunner,

As far as the tractor weight goes, for comparison my tractor is listed as 4200 lbs bare tractor weight. Adding the FEL and standard 67" bucket, plus filled rear tires, plus my 6' box blade, my tractor scales at 7100 lbs. That is not a guess, that is actually weighed on a CAT scale.

Yours should be pretty similar in weight.
 
   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner #17  
Its taken a couple hundred hours on my 3725 for the range transmission to get less difficult to shift. I don't shift it often. High is too high for my steep terrain, low is only good for pulling or the steepest hills. I use medium for nearly everything. Most of my shifting is into neutral when I run the PTO chipper and back out when I'm done. (I'd love to have a low medium and a high medium and the ability to shift while moving)

I think the gear clearances are tight. I don't feel any slop in the drivetrain. So it's not surprising it would take some work to shift gears. Giving it a little pedal sometimes helps.
Of course you range transmission is different from mine but I would expect Bransons' spec for gear clearances to be similar.

It's easier to shift than the Kubota L3301 I test drove though. Neither I or the salesman could get it to shift.
 
   / Branson 5520CH vs Kioti vs Kubota for new tractor owner #18  
The fenders on my 4815c are plastic as well. Maybe a cab thing?
 
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Madgunner,

Congrats on the new tractor! And thank you for the very detailed write up on the entire experience from choosing the tractor and all of your implements.
 

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