Bucket hooks

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My belief is that VEVOR is a direct arm of the CCP that brands all things and floods the US market with them, they have their name one seemingly everything and came out of nowhere...you never heard of them 2 years ago did you? The products are generally of very low quality and have zero support if there is an issue. They are even well known for stealing videos and IP of the product they are copying to use in their own advertising-it's a well known issue among small businesses. Amazon is a very easy avenue to make all this happen.
I would not doubt that a bit. Could very well be part of a larger plan to further put US companies out of business. The scary part tho, is that many of the Vevor products are of decent quality, and maybe at one time, but no longer 'very low' quality. Zero support seems to be the theme. I've bought from Vevor and Aliexpress in full doubt of how 'at that price' there could be any quality at all. I was shocked and surprised that they could make anything that good with a price that low. This was industrial electronics. It's a bad thing all around for US companies.
 
   / Bucket hooks #32  
Most of you have light gage material buckets, not heavy duty (double sheet) excavation buckets (though your dealer probably had them as an option), Kubota does I know.

The problem is, with a light gage bucket you need to use Kenny's bolt on or weld on hooks, and place them as close to or in line with the location of the bucket cylinders to mitigate bending of the upper lip of the bucket, itself. In lieu of that, you can buy just the forged hooks from many sources online or local hardware store and weld them on yourself, if you have a welder of sufficient amperage and have that skill as well, but again, place the hooks inline with the bucket cylinders, NOT in the middle of the bucket because in the middle of the bucket (if it's not a heavy duty bucket where placement of the hooks don't matter. If I need to lift something I just put a chain around the bucket and use that. I have NO hooks on any of my buckets, never have and I have multiple buckets bit excavation (double sheet) and material buckets (single sheet).
Great post, 5030. But on the flip side, reverse all that advice if you have the HD bucket, at least Deere's. With the double-wall construction of the upper lip on the HD bucket, you can't use regular bolt on hooks, although I do think Kenny's BOH has a special version with sleeved spacers to make this work.

I have the HD bucket, since I had bent the hell out of a regular bucket lifting logs, and that's one of my primary uses for the tractor. I just welded load-spreader plates to the top of the upper lip, then welded hooks to those plates. No flex or distortion after 5 years of lifting many hundreds of logs, many at or above max lift capacity... you know, when you need to curl, just to get the log one inch off the ground. :ROFLMAO:

Side note to anyone shopping buckets... I wish I did NOT buy the HD bucket. It's just stupid-heavy, something like 440 lb. at 60" width. On a loader with 1600 lb. lift, that stupid bucket is eating up 25% of my capacity... and most of your CUT's have less lift capacity than that. It also makes the tractor so nose-heavy, just driving around with an empty bucket, that you'll find yourself needing more ballast and more frequent 4wd usage, just to drive around a lawn with a bit of a hill. I'd have done better to buy the regular bucket, and just weld reinforcements into the few key areas where I needed them, for lifting logs.
 
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   / Bucket hooks #33  
I'm pretty sure these originated from JU FabWorks and the ChiComs copied them, just like they ripped off R2 Manufacturing, who developed the EdgeTamer.

Communists aren't people.
It’s not like this is some type of industry secret or exclusive patent. It’s just a piece of steel with hooks and a receiver welded on it.
 
   / Bucket hooks #34  
It’s not like this is some type of industry secret or exclusive patent. It’s just a piece of steel with hooks and a receiver welded on it.

Yeah, **** them for not having the ability to defend their intellectual property from the same folks who literally reverse engineered the Chevrolet Aveo to the point body panels were interchangeable.

🙄
 
   / Bucket hooks #35  
Yeah, **** them for not having the ability to defend their intellectual property from the same folks who literally reverse engineered the Chevrolet Aveo to the point body panels were interchangeable.

🙄
Is a piece of steel with hooks welded to it really intellectual property?
 
   / Bucket hooks #36  
Yeah, **** them for not having the ability to defend their intellectual property from the same folks who literally reverse engineered the Chevrolet Aveo to the point body panels were interchangeable.

🙄
:unsure: Intellectual property? Folks have been welding grab hooks to steel plates for more than 100 years, in every configuration one could or will ever imagine. There's no IP in a hook welded to a plate. :ROFLMAO:

<-- works in tech, where IP is the value of the company
 
   / Bucket hooks #37  
I would not doubt that a bit. Could very well be part of a larger plan to further put US companies out of business. The scary part tho, is that many of the Vevor products are of decent quality, and maybe at one time, but no longer 'very low' quality. Zero support seems to be the theme. I've bought from Vevor and Aliexpress in full doubt of how 'at that price' there could be any quality at all. I was shocked and surprised that they could make anything that good with a price that low. This was industrial electronics. It's a bad thing all around for US companies.

You can save a lot of money when you're backed by an authoritarian regime that can directly manipulate it's economy at all levels.
 
   / Bucket hooks #38  
You can save a lot of money when you're backed by an authoritarian regime that can directly manipulate it's economy at all levels.
There may be some truth in that, but I don't think that's the major factor here, as authoritarian regimes are almost universally money-hungry. It's not like government suddenly becomes efficient, just because they're "bad".

Near-slave wages and lack of any safety or environmental regulation, is the way you save money in manufacturing.
 
   / Bucket hooks #39  
:unsure: Intellectual property? Folks have been welding grab hooks to steel plates for more than 100 years, in every configuration one could or will ever imagine. There's no IP in a hook welded to a plate. :ROFLMAO:

<-- works in tech, where IP is the value of the company

I don't work in the industry, and I'm sure I used the wrong term, but when Group A takes Group B's product and produces a direct copy for a quarter of the price because profit literally means nothing, Group A is an *******.

Does that work?
 
   / Bucket hooks #40  
That "plate" is a direct rip off of the JU Fabworks design as mentioned above. JUF buys the hooks from us, which are the ONLY ones forged here in the USA.

My belief is that VEVOR is a direct arm of the CCP that brands all things and floods the US market with them, they have their name one seemingly everything and came out of nowhere...you never heard of them 2 years ago did you? The products are generally of very low quality and have zero support if there is an issue. They are even well known for stealing videos and IP of the product they are copying to use in their own advertising-it's a well known issue among small businesses. Amazon is a very easy avenue to make all this happen.


Thanks to all the members above who mentioned me and my business, I've been a member here for a long time, and I'll be here for many years to come. It all started here on TBN, you can read the story on our About Us page. We made the original "Bolt-On Hook", and they are copied and sold all over eBay and Amazon now too with one major distinction, our are made here in the USA.


You can see our 3/8" version being forged in this video on our YT channel:

Kenny is right up the road from me. Amazon is so full of counterfeit junk these days.
 
 

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