bucket lifting front end

   / bucket lifting front end #11  
I have heard others say to raise the bucket to its highest level,lower and repeat.

I had the same issue and when I did it, it seemed to work but then realized that I had tilted the bucket as well. It doesn't cost anything to try it. I am not sure if there is any merit to this or not I only know that was weeks ago and been working fine. good luck.
 
   / bucket lifting front end #12  
Were you in neutral when trying lift the front tires? If not try in neutral since the rear tires must roll to lift the front very much.

my tractor will not lift front without putting gear range in neutral or feathering HST forward while lowering the loader.
Interesting. My FEL will lift the front end in all conditions. I have to go easy on the lever when digging into a pile of dirt or rock (in forward gear) to keep the front wheels on the ground. I can drag in reverse with the front wheels off the ground when spreading topsoil or gravel.
 
   / bucket lifting front end #13  
My b6100 loader is weaker than my b8200 loader yet it will lift the front 'no matter what' while the b8200 won't. I don't think it's much reflection of the actual performance of the loader for doing loader work, just a reflection of a bunch of other factors like how much weight is in front of the tractor's rear axle, how far the bucket is from the rear axle, how much traction the rear axle has in the first place (my b6100 has empty turfs, 8200 loaded r1s) etc etc.

If the loader works fine in every other way, i wouldn't read anything into whether it needs a little help pushing the front end up.
 
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Splitting wood all day so I didn't try anything. In the past week, I was filing in an area to create a road. I was in gear, and compacing the dirt with bucket. I've also llifted the front end by digging to deep.

I will try all suggestions tomorroow, for now, I do believe I've earned Happy Hour...
 
   / bucket lifting front end #15  
Another thing that has not been mentioned ....
The loader lift cylinders have a lot more cross section for the hydraulics to work with when extending than when retracting because their shaft diameter is large. This means they can generate a lot more lift force than they can lowering force.
I'm not familiar with your particular loader, but all hydraulic cylinders can generate more force when extending than when retracting because of the difference in cross section.
 
   / bucket lifting front end #16  
Quick...tell the wife you need to buy a new bigger tractor while you get a premium for the old one!
 
   / bucket lifting front end #17  
Are we talking here about lifting the tractor front wheels off the ground by rolling the bucket forward or with the lift cylinders? Just curious as I'm thinking that anything preventing the tractor rolling would apply only when using the "roll the bucket" method.
 
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Are we talking here about lifting the tractor front wheels off the ground by rolling the bucket forward or with the lift cylinders? Just curious as I'm thinking that anything preventing the tractor rolling would apply only when using the "roll the bucket" method.
lift cylinders
 
   / bucket lifting front end #19  
Lift cylinders here too. It does still try to pull the tractor. Just like the buckets moves rearward when lifting to max height, it also moves rearward when lowering to lowest position. It is farthest forward somewhere about 3-4 feet up.. The bucket moves in an arc. Skid steers often have 'vertical lift' designs where extra linkages are used to make the bucket not move forward or backward as it goes up and down, but tractor loaders are all regular old 'radial lift'.
radial2Blift2Bversus2Bvertical2Blift2Bskid2Bsteer2Bcomparison.png
 
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Sorry, roll. I was helping a neighbor clean out hhis horse area of manure/urine soaked hay. i discovered that i roll to lift front end. thanks to all...













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