build a bridge, get over it

   / build a bridge, get over it #21  
Well said beenthere,

See right now our creek is running like mad and the previous owners actually had a bridge washed out that they had constructed. I guess the best thing to do like you mentioned is get someone that knows to tell me. But still would like to know, if not to invasive, how much it costs for that.

Darin
 
   / build a bridge, get over it #22  
Beenthere, it's the same in PA and probably a lot of other states. Our property has a small creek close to the road that we bridged. I had a PE design the bridge, and I told him we'd need to be prepared for dumptrucks, concrete trucks and hopefully never on "business" - a fire truck. He designed it to PennDot standards. It has a 14' wide bore, and the bottom of the deck is about 4' above the normal water level.

We lucked out in a couple respects. First of all, for the construction of the house, we were able to access the site through a neighbor's land. When the site plan underwent the hydro study, the engineer noted we could straighten the creek at the bridge location. This would negate the impact of adding the bridge to the stream area (bridge won't cause increased flooding). This allowed us to construct the bridge on dry land, prior to rechanneling the creek through it.

The bridge has foundations on each wall that go down about 9' to a wide footer. This puts the foundation close to 4' down below the stream bottom. Rebar ties the foundations to the footers and poured deck. It would take an A-bomb to move the thing. There's about $1,100 worth of rebar in it, and I think something like 13 yards of concrete. The deck has a mat of rebar on 4" centers that extend up into the curbs. I originally planned to build it myself, but got so busy working on the house (elec, plumbing, heat/ac, central sucuum, wiring for future sound system, etc) that it looked like I'd never get done. The house contractor volunteered to do it for around $6,000. He thought it would be a fun change of pace for his guys.

The approvals from the Department of Environmental Protection, Soil Conservation people, Township and all resulted in the project being two years in the making before we broke ground.

The bridge usually gets flooded out a couple times a year, but most of the time remains passable. Flood conditions rarely last more than a couple hours...............chim
 
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#23  
i got the i-beams from where i work, we buy steel by the truckload so i got a very good price. The i-beams were only $150 each. not a bad price for the size
 
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For the past thirty years i have been watching this creek, how it behaves, what it likes to do and where it likes to flow. If you work with mother nature not against her, she will be much nicer to you. I have 17 yards of concrete in this bridge, yes 17 yards. 8 yards on the first side and 9 yards on the second side. I watched as other bridges over the years failed on this creek. I took all the info i gained from other peoples failures and tried to design a bridge that would pass where their's failed. To get back to your question i guess i will have about $2500 in the bridge when i'm done. Thats only materials, labor was all on me.
 
   / build a bridge, get over it #25  
No more pictures? Was the last picture the current stage of your bridge?
 
   / build a bridge, get over it #26  
MrHurt,

That is a very good price you got total on that bridge and by the looks of it it's very solid. Just like I would want. There is a bridge build like yours with the concrete that's been up the road for a very long time and we get sudden rapids when raining hard or spring thaws and such. Sure do like the pics too

Darin
 
   / build a bridge, get over it #27  
The weather was decent here today, and the sun was at the right angle to get a shot of our bridge. It was built in 1989. The shape is as designed by the engineer, and if viewed from the top, it is slightly trapezoid-shaped to compensate crossing the stream at an angle...................chim
 

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I will post some current pictures tonight, i'm going down there today to do some work around "the rusty ranch".
 
   / build a bridge, get over it #29  
chim,

That is a heck of a bridge for sure. And after seeing this I don't see why I couldn't have one put in on our creek. This creek that runs by your place does it run all year and with good high rate flows sometimes? Again very nice

Darin
 
   / build a bridge, get over it #30  
Darin, the picture shows the creek with the flow a bit higher than normal. A heavy rain brings it higher - about cuts the clearance between water and bottom of bridge to half of what shows in the picture.

Water goes over it (and the driveway) anywhere from 0 to 4 times a year. There's enough flood plain that once the water gets high enough to get over the banks, it almost never gets above the 6" curbs of the bridge. The origin of the creek is about 2 miles away, so it doesn't drain a huge area when it rains. That's why it doesn't generally stay out of its banks for more than a few hours when we get a flood.

We had a drought here in PA this year, and the creek slowed to a flow that a 6" pipe could have handled. There was one Summer about 6 or 7 years ago when it totally dried up for a few weeks. It felt kinda odd to be able to walk the creekbed in sneakers to whack the weeds on the banks..............chim
 

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