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MossRoad
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As long as you know the people that own and operate it, and accept the risks, it looks like a good deal.
EddieWalker
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Jason,
The sprocket looks well past it's time and you will be very lucky to get by without throughing a track.
39 acres of clearing can mean allot of different things, especially in what part of Texas you are in. I spent two months running my Case 1550 Dozer and a full sized backhoe cleaing 7 acres. I had my dad helping, and we took out every single tree to build my lake.
I don't know how much power or how heavy an old D6 is, but mine is just under a newer D6 in power at 169hp. I cannot just push over any old tree. I can push over most trees a foot or so thick, and sometimes even bigger if it's been raining and not too hot out. Bigger trees require digging out allot of dirt, buiding a ramp and pushing them over. This can take hours for one tree. I've found that a backhoe will take out a big tree so much faster then my dozer that it's not even comparable. If I can't push over a tree in one or two attempts, then I leave it and come back later with the backhoe.
How much clearing do you plan on doing, and how thick is it? Thinking that you can do half or even a quarter as much clearing as a guy in a new machine who knows what he's doing isn't. realistic. If the guy who gave you a bid said he could do it in one month, I'd figure six months at the soonest to do the same thing. Probably twice that.
The hard parts isn't even taking out the trees. That's easy. The hard part is getting rid of them. Moving hundreds of tones of trees and brush takes allot of skill with your blade and machine. If you only end up with one yard of dirt every time you push a pile of debri to the burn pile, you'll be lucky. My dad has hundreds of hours on my dozer, and he gets tired real fast and loses concentration. The next thing you know, he has a 20 yard pile of dirt in front of the burn pile. Dirt doesn't burn, so it's more work all around.
I agree you can't lose for that price, but you should still be ready to spend some time wrenching on it and givng up some of your cash. Dozers love lots of cash!!!!!
Eddie
The sprocket looks well past it's time and you will be very lucky to get by without throughing a track.
39 acres of clearing can mean allot of different things, especially in what part of Texas you are in. I spent two months running my Case 1550 Dozer and a full sized backhoe cleaing 7 acres. I had my dad helping, and we took out every single tree to build my lake.
I don't know how much power or how heavy an old D6 is, but mine is just under a newer D6 in power at 169hp. I cannot just push over any old tree. I can push over most trees a foot or so thick, and sometimes even bigger if it's been raining and not too hot out. Bigger trees require digging out allot of dirt, buiding a ramp and pushing them over. This can take hours for one tree. I've found that a backhoe will take out a big tree so much faster then my dozer that it's not even comparable. If I can't push over a tree in one or two attempts, then I leave it and come back later with the backhoe.
How much clearing do you plan on doing, and how thick is it? Thinking that you can do half or even a quarter as much clearing as a guy in a new machine who knows what he's doing isn't. realistic. If the guy who gave you a bid said he could do it in one month, I'd figure six months at the soonest to do the same thing. Probably twice that.
The hard parts isn't even taking out the trees. That's easy. The hard part is getting rid of them. Moving hundreds of tones of trees and brush takes allot of skill with your blade and machine. If you only end up with one yard of dirt every time you push a pile of debri to the burn pile, you'll be lucky. My dad has hundreds of hours on my dozer, and he gets tired real fast and loses concentration. The next thing you know, he has a 20 yard pile of dirt in front of the burn pile. Dirt doesn't burn, so it's more work all around.
I agree you can't lose for that price, but you should still be ready to spend some time wrenching on it and givng up some of your cash. Dozers love lots of cash!!!!!
Eddie
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As far as your calculations are concerned, assume you buy it (I probably would too), figure an oil change to start. Oh, and if I'm not totally off my rocker, I bet it burns about 7-10 gallons of diesel AN HOUR (throttle is always up when you are running). Figuring you can stand to be on it 5 hours at a time, you'll be looking at 40-45 gallons per episode. Got a truck with a tank in the bed?? Hey, like I said, I probably would take the chance myself. Good Luck, and lots of pictures. BobG in VA
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I try to make rational decisions; and have gambled on many purchases......that dozer would be one of them!! The price is right! If one purchase a new automobile; at least $5000 disappears before any miles are put on it in resale value?? Go for it, you may regret it for the rest of your life, if you pass it up. If it breaks...........put a new coat of paint on it, and the value may double, if it is a reasonable repair?? But I also would be somewhat gentle with it to reduce the risks of problems. Just the entertainment of operating it would be worth the cost to me; plus you can clear the land at your own pace.
Offy
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I don't think that you are taking much of a gamble. I'd go for it!
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Mornin jshbryan,
I dont know anything about bulldozers, but the fact that your old school buddy that has run that machine is telling you that it runs well and is worth every penny makes it sound good to me !
I dont know anything about bulldozers, but the fact that your old school buddy that has run that machine is telling you that it runs well and is worth every penny makes it sound good to me !
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Watch that thing like a hawk the first several hours you run it. Even relatively new stuff that sits for 6 mos. can sprout problems. With 50 yr. old seals, who knows what might let go.
If you hop off it every 30 minutes and look for leaks & other signs of impending disaster, it might save you a boatload of trouble.
Bob
If you hop off it every 30 minutes and look for leaks & other signs of impending disaster, it might save you a boatload of trouble.
Bob
DavesTractor
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The sprockets look 100% worn. It's likely the pins/bushings are in similar shape, making it easy to toss a track. Of course if the u/c was real nice, you would have to pay more for it. I'm with you in concept, I like the idea, but you should have a dozer expert address the track condition for an opinion if there is enough left for your project. If so, buy it.
