bumper pull or gooseneck

[LD1]

thanks for the replies. I was already thinking that I would stick to 10k or less on the bumper and anything over to go GN. I think I need to get a ball installed. Plus they look cooler.

I dont know about looking cooler, but they certainly are easier to hook up/line up if your flying solo. No more in and out of the truck 20 times lining up a BP.

Gooseneck over bumper, 5th wheel over all..

Why a 5th??

 

[powerstroke444e]

I like gn for heavy loads but also have use for a good heavy duty bumper pull.

If you are wanting bumper pull you can get some real good heavy duty trailers that have 17.5 singles on them that will handle 14,000lbs of load.
Look at belshe trailers, econoline or kaufman? Yes you will need a heavy 2 1/2 receiver if your running those loads but it can be done.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I dont know about looking cooler, but they certainly are easier to hook up/line up if your flying solo. No more in and out of the truck 20 times lining up a BP.

Why a 5th??

Thats why all the new stuff has backup camera's.

For me I had a GN. I hated it. Loss of bed and it limited me to one tow vehicle is major reasons. BP works so much better in the long run.

Chris

 

[LD1]

Thats why all the new stuff has backup camera's.

For me I had a GN. I hated it. Loss of bed and it limited me to one tow vehicle is major reasons. BP works so much better in the long run.

Chris

Oh yea, them BU cameras :duh:

Yea, the loss of bed space sucks. When I go cutting wood, I either have to leave the wood behind, or the tractor and trailer. That kinda sucks.

But for heavier loads, like a LArger tractor, or backhoe in the 10k+ range, I like the GN. For my little kubota with FEL, loaded tires, and heavy Bushhog that weighs maybe 5000-5500 max, I like the bumper pull better, but only have room at my place for 1 trailer. So the BP stays at my parents since they dont have a truck with a GN

 

[corvettefarmer]

I currently have an F350 cc dually that we use for our small beef cattle and horse ranch. At this time, we don't grow our own hay so have to bring in both round rolls and bales to get us from November - April (sometimes a bit later). I've hauled hay on 16 foot bp trailers, 32 foot bp 2 car carrier and now a 28 ft GN deck over with tandem duals. The GN took a short while to feel at ease with but for larger loads, I will never go back to a bp trailer. Getting in and out of hay fields is much easier with the GN not to mention its carrying capacity. I did keep a small bp trailer but it pretty much just sits in a barn. Loss of bed space while towing has never been an issue with us - if I need to tow, I really don't need the bed. Over the years, pickup beds have become pretty useless for us. So much so, we are currently looking at an F550 with a 9 ft flat bed as this would work well for getting a smaller load of square bales. As always, what works for me may not work for anyone else.

 

[Deere Dude]

your weights are WAY off.

big tex 14K 18' equipment trailer #2710 several other large name equipment trailers in the 12-14K range are all just under 3000lbs.

one of the above 14K trailer with 10% TW (1400lbs) will give a trailer cargo capacity of over 12,000lbs. Course youll likely want a 1 ton or better with a class V WD hitch.

but its very doable for much less than the GN.

a BP is nice when you want to consider going to a F450 or 550 with a dump bed and can no longer put a GN in the back of the truck. They also open up other options for tow vehicals such as 1 ton vans, or box trucks, NPR or the like.

I don't believe my weight estimate is far off. My title says "15680 GVWR and also 5710 Shipping Weight"
Doesn't seem WAY off to me. But I didn't personally weight it without the truck attached, but their weights are pretty reliable. Maybe it's heavier duty that TEX or other ones?

 

[LD1]

All I know is trailer weights are all over the place. I see some talk on here and cant help but think how light people estimate trailers at.

My car trailer (which is nothing special) weighs 2700#. Its got a full length 4x4 box tube down the middle, and 2x4 tube around the perimeter, and 3" channel crosses every 2' with oak boards and 2 MH axles.

Alot of the weight is in the boards of choice too. Oak is much heavier than pine. But even so, a 20' long trailer that is 7' wide using dimensional lumber would have about 17 cu ft of boards. and SYP treated stuff is ~30 lb/ cu ft. So thats over 500 for just the boards. A pair of 3500# axles and tires is another ~500#

That dont leave much weight for steel, hitch, ramps, etc. So when I see claims of 7k trailers at 1500# it makes me wonder

My 24k GN @ 25' is 6500# FYI

 

[RedNeckRacin]

20+5 moritz weighs 5400lbs per the builder's web site. 7k torsion axles.

DP is one of the few diehard BP guys and thats fine, he has a unique purpose for his application. If your hauling equipment a GN is hands down the way to go. (sorry DP) It gives you much more flexability with your load placement and usually allows you to tow a little more than what your rated for "safely" Because none of us ever uses what we have to get the job done instead of what we are supposed to use. :thumbsup:

 

[Xfaxman]

Once you decide on a Gooseneck, this thread will answer the next question.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/273476-stand-up-slide-ramps.html

 

[powerstroke444e]

Oh yea, them BU cameras :duh:

Yea, the loss of bed space sucks. When I go cutting wood, I either have to leave the wood behind, or the tractor and trailer. That kinda sucks.

When you do firewood you just need load it on the trailer with the tractor
FYI I would doubt that I would put that load on a bumper hitch trailer