burn safety

[Soundguy]

i do notice my last welding shirt menions to no dry clean..

 

[Looking4new]

Now the new shirts are cotton and treated with flame-RESISTANT chemicals..No polyester allowed with the New Flash Arc regulations..This helps prevent burns and melting shirts to body.They are not approved for fire fighting or welding.... Noticed a few mechanics have them too, but not sure if required??

There is a place in Ohio where I load asphalt, they INSIST on your wearing of 'NOMEX' coveralls as the outer layer of your clothing. No Nomex, you don't load. End of discussion. I see that Imperial Oil in Nanticoke is doing the same thing now. Nomex is supposed to be 'flame retardant' but I have no desire to prove it right or wrong.

 

[Scooby074]

Nomex is basically what firemen wear in their turnout gear. Same as racers.

Basically fireproof. Nomex coveralls are becoming required more and more. In the electrical field, Arc Fault requirements have gone a long way towards acceptance of flame proof clothing.

Above all, never wear polyester or other non-fireproof synthetics. As part of training, Ive watched the videos. Its scary just how fast you can go up in polyester. And it sticks to you. Cotton is great and easily available to the masses.

Hopefully your friend will have a quick recovery.

 

[jonyyuma]

Nomex is basically what firemen wear in their turnout gear. Same as racers.

Basically fireproof. Nomex coveralls are becoming required more and more. In the electrical field, Arc Fault requirements have gone a long way towards acceptance of flame proof clothing.
Hopefully your friend will have a quick recovery.

Yes< Nomex has been in use in Military for a long time. Flight coveralls and gloves for certain.. Nomex is required at our Refinery here in town..NFPA 2112 Standard for Industrial Personnel , 2007 edition...and NFPA 70E, 2009 edition.. We do have the same type t-shirts to wear under our long-sleeves shirts..If the voltage is high enough we don our coveralls, face shields and hardhats. These garments help prevent serious flash burns..

 

[joshuabardwell]

At a camping event that I used to work at several years ago, an attendee was seriously burned. His shirt, which was at least partially synthetic, became inflamed somehow, and he ran about 90 feet before succumbing to the flames and falling down. People, including event medical staff, rushed to his aid immediately, and he was air-lifted out, but he eventually died.

When I was a kid, I saw those "stop, drop, and roll" cartoons, and they really stuck in my mind after this event. Everybody should take some time NOW while they are not on fire, to mentally reinforce, and maybe even practice stop, drop, and roll. If this guy had not run, it's possible he would not have been seriously injured at all, but the reptile-brain sees fire and wants to get away from it! If you've got family or kids, teach them the same: stop, drop, and roll in response to being on fire. NEVER RUN.

 

[Redneck in training]

Nomex is basically what firemen wear in their turnout gear. Same as racers.

Basically fireproof. Nomex coveralls are becoming required more and more. In the electrical field, Arc Fault requirements have gone a long way towards acceptance of flame proof clothing.

Above all, never wear polyester or other non-fireproof synthetics. As part of training, Ive watched the videos. Its scary just how fast you can go up in polyester. And it sticks to you. Cotton is great and easily available to the masses.

Hopefully your friend will have a quick recovery.

NOMEX was originally developed for space program. NOMEX stands for NO More Excuses by the way. When DuPont was developing the material they couldn't get it right. Finally the military told them no more excuses and the name stuck. I learned that story while doing project for NASA. If you need to work in any refinery, chemical plant and similar in USA or Canada Nomex is required. Nomex will burn in flame but when you remove the flame it will self extinguish. It also doesn't melt so it can't stick to the skin.

 

[Soundguy]

nice stuff!

 

[Scooby074]

NOMEX was originally developed for space program. NOMEX stands for NO More Excuses by the way. When DuPont was developing the material they couldn't get it right. Finally the military told them no more excuses and the name stuck. I learned that story while doing project for NASA. If you need to work in any refinery, chemical plant and similar in USA or Canada Nomex is required. Nomex will burn in flame but when you remove the flame it will self extinguish. It also doesn't melt so it can't stick to the skin.

Thanks for the background. Perfect name. One more great thing we can thank the space program for:thumbsup:

 

[rd_macgregor]

I used to work with hot tar roofers (I was just grunt labor). Even in hot weather (eg summer in Nevada and So. Cal), they covered up pretty thoroughly; they also tended to have lots of scars around their wrists (gap between gloves and shirt sleeves). When that tar is hot enough to run like syrup, it is HOT!
BOB

 

[dmccarty]

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When I was a kid, I saw those "stop, drop, and roll" cartoons, and they really stuck in my mind after this event. Everybody should take some time NOW while they are not on fire, to mentally reinforce, and maybe even practice stop, drop, and roll. If this guy had not run, it's possible he would not have been seriously injured at all, but the reptile-brain sees fire and wants to get away from it! If you've got family or kids, teach them the same: stop, drop, and roll in response to being on fire. NEVER RUN.

A classmate of one of our kids caught fire. Thankfully, the school had recently had a fire safety class AND the kid remembered to drop and roll. Otherwise I am not sure he would have survived. He had some bad burns and his time in the UNC Burn Unit were not fun but he is ok today. I was VERY impressed with the burn unit and how it was setup for the kids and family. Giving money to a burn unit is a very good idea.

Later,
Dan

 

[Bob77064]

Soundguy, I am vey sorry to hear about your friend. Give him my hopes and prayers.

 

[Soundguy]

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH PETE 2X PER WEEK SINCE THIS HAPPENED.

HES' ( darn capslock! ) he's down to wearing a compression glove about 8hrs a day, and a compression stocking on his arm full time. he had 1 infection that was able to be cleared up with meds and creams and debriding.. his fingernails have started to grow.. and other than resiual peeling, discoloration, and sensitivity, plus some tight skin and ruptured knuckles.. he's doing ok.

 

[k0ua]

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH PETE 2X PER WEEK SINCE THIS HAPPENED.

HES' ( darn capslock! ) he's down to wearing a compression glove about 8hrs a day, and a compression stocking on his arm full time. he had 1 infection that was able to be cleared up with meds and creams and debriding.. his fingernails have started to grow.. and other than resiual peeling, discoloration, and sensitivity, plus some tight skin and ruptured knuckles.. he's doing ok.

I am very glad to hear he is improving.

James K0UA

 

[creekbend]

I am glad that his condition is improving.

 

[Soundguy]

he's way glad too! but I bet you knew that.

 

[JamesHW]

I had an favorite aunt, now deceased, who was a head nurse in the Army burn unit down in San Antonio for years.

I am confident there is a special place in heaven for her and the other who worked with her.

 

[Soundguy]

have to be... burns are nasty injuries....

 

[Looking4new]

I used to work with hot tar roofers (I was just grunt labor). Even in hot weather (eg summer in Nevada and So. Cal), they covered up pretty thoroughly; they also tended to have lots of scars around their wrists (gap between gloves and shirt sleeves). When that tar is hot enough to run like syrup, it is HOT!
BOB

Roofing tar usually runs at about 400 degrees F.
A few years ago I picked up a load of 'Type 2 Roofing tar' in Detroit, the temp. of it was 475 degrees F.

 

[Soundguy]

asphalt is like that from the plant.. even off the truk it can be 350+

 

[chad22]

We were taught in school to stop drop and roll every year starting from Kindergarten.

Chad