Burning Water

[patrick_g]

Martin, When I first worked at a Gov lab as a student slave while a physics major/math minor at San Diego State the group I worked in had an isotope powered thermal electric source (nuclear-electric power source) which was placed on the sea floor and powered the remote telemetry and sensors on board a spar buoy at the surface.

Given the numbers of biological oceanographers and such at the lab there would have been lots of feedback if it were at all suspected that the bottom fish were developing extra eyes or radiologically induced mutations or the clams were growing tentacles or growing to massive proportions and threatening to eat cities. We were into physical oceanography but our cousins would have let us know if they were concerned.

Maybe you could get one of those babies (isotope powered thermal generators) to supply power to your 3D wrist TV with 7.1 surround and individual drink cooler with "cool zone" personal climate altering accessory.

We also had a buoy that we powered with a wind generator (when we weren't having to go out in a boat to change the batteries.) Big waves took off the blades one time, too much wind burned out the brake and then slung the blades another. It was fun though to drive down the public street (Rosecrans) with the wind genny in the back of a Gov pickup to simulate wind blowing it to check its output under load. Yes, I have been "INTO" alternate and renewable energy solutions since the late 60's.

Pat

 

[SLOBuds]

Rosecrans in the 60s! Brings back 'interesting' memories. Cleaned that right up the way Times Square was cleaned up. Darn!

After writing my reactor-in-a-box requirement, I Googlized for a bit and shore nuff, Toshiba will introduce one here in 2009.

NukeInABox

Since I believe everything I read on the internet, now I'm satisfied that I will have my own reactor next year and I'll have to rag on my father about other things that engineers are falling short on.

The thing that's really freakin' me and Susan out right now Pat are those 12 ovens on Mars. I saw ALL of those movies. Once those organisms are unfrozen they will grow into huge 30 m. black bugs and start looking for their preferred meal again - humans. For sure.

 

[Searchman]

Look at Hydrogen Garage LLC

 

[Egon]

Flywheels were sorta touted back in the 60's as I recall.

I'm all for the little bugs in controlled situations munching away and making an energy releasing product.

Nuclear power also seems pretty reasonable alternative under the proper circumstances.

Out at the lake last week I had a fire going and decided that was a good time to try the water experiment. Darned fire went out!

 

[patrick_g]

Out at the lake last week I had a fire going and decided that was a good time to try the water experiment. Darned fire went out!

Bad technique.

It is all in the wrists.

You have to impart a proper spin to the water such that the coupling of rotary moment is captured by the spin of the binding electrons in the bond forming the hydronium oxide (AKA di-hydrogen oxide) such that the component parts are properly dissociated prior to being elevated in temperature.

Once accomplished, the above will bring you to the brink of the desired exothermic reaction where further explanation is not required and further technique will not enhance the energy release output.

Pat

 

[Egon]

Oh ho so thats it.

Now the big question is what plane the spin must be in and how is the plane oriented in correlation to the solar system?

But on the other hand doesn't this spin thats added requie some kind of energy regime. You gotta remember my body is in very sad shape these days and does not contain much energy!

 

[SLOBuds]

Look at Hydrogen Garage LLC

Too scarey with that Big Guy missing the old beat-up garage, hitting a helpless Oak tree instead. Like Astronaut Farmer.

 

[atgreene]

Oh gawd, I hope it ain't so... I need my water to, uh drink & bath &stuff. If it really burns then that means it'll be comoditized, then the clepto-corpra-crats will control ALL-OF-It? I guess I'll have to get another job to pay for this, or be thirsty & stinky?

Ever heard of that little company called Poland Spring?

 

[have_blue]

Bad technique.

It is all in the wrists.

You have to impart a proper spin to the water such that the coupling of rotary moment is captured by the spin of the binding electrons in the bond Pat

Speaking of spin...

One night I couldn't sleep, so I thought about extracting energy from tectonic plate movement. The San Andreas fault for example, moves about an inch a year. You anchor a giant gear rack on one side, and a giant pinion gear on the other, geared up maybe 100,000:1. Give the pinion a big spin to get it started, and there she goes! Free energy for someone's charged fence!

 

[rox]

You mean like next summer?

Wedge

We are paying $9 USD per gallon over here in Provence France. We are feeling a slowdown in our economy. We are now picking and selling almonds at the wholsale market. Green almonds you pick them when they are green instead of waiting for them to fall off the trees in fall. This wholsale market we go to, the farmers side is like 4 football fields long, the buyers side is a bit bigger. Green almonds are a seasonal kind of luxury fruit/food. If you are tightning your belt you can easily forego buying green almonds, it is not a staple like green beans, lettuce and tomatoes. The buys are down, way donw, nt as many buyers at the wholsale market. We ahve a very good year over eyar customer who has a couple gren grocer stores, they are now down to 1 store. last year they bought 50 cases 95 Kilo cases) at a time. This year they are buying only 15 cases at a time. My husband brought 47 cases to the market today and didn't even sell them all, came back with 17 cases. He said there were hardly any buyers today and he even sold like 10 cases at 0.80 Euros a kilo. The guy had him between a rock and a hard spot and said, "Look I see how many cases you got take it or leave it" So he took it. We have never ever ever sold green almonds for 0.80 cents per kilo, not even our first year 4 years ago. And plus we were the only one selling green almonds today.

These high oil prices are going to bring the world ecenomy to it's knees. I truly tryly wish we could find cheap alternatives to fossil fuels. We will pick almonds tomorrow, last Friday he sold them all and at a good price, between 1.50 Euros a kilo and 2 euros a kilo, so hopefully the market on Friday will be better than today. Usually on Fridays the market is better, we can only hope.