Bush hog blade stopping

   / Bush hog blade stopping #61  
The tc40 uses a hydraulic actuated pto clutch pack, sounds like either the clutch is worn or more likely the pressure to it low (which will cause the clutch pack to wear prematurely).

You need to check the clutch hyd. pressure, if that is within spec you'll most likely be pulling the clutch pack out.
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #62  
Based on your description it definitely seems you have internal issues. If you don't think so, drop that bush hog off and put something else PTO driven on to see if the tractor responds the same way. I would be very, very surprised if you have something wrong with that bush hog. I think your issues are much more serious. Get to troubleshooting. And good luck.
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #63  
The grass was dry. The tractor RPMs do not drop but the blade and the PTO shaft both slow and nearly stop. The New Holland does not have a foot clutch on the hydro trans. Will try to check more in the future. Thanks

This was OP’s post (#14).
Seven pages later and we’re still wondering where the problem is?

If the tractor’s PTO shaft nearly stops but the tractor engine’s rpms do not drop, it’s an tractor PTO problem.
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #64  
It has a new hydraulic filter and fluid about 5 hours ago.
Hmmm. Was the correct fluid used or the cheap yellow pail stuff? The wrong fluid may cause clutch slippage.

I would be careful with fluid type with a wet clutch.
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #65  
Does the PTO shaft look like this where it connects to tractor?
If the bolt is sheared, the mower’s PTO shaft will slow down, but you may think it’s the tractor’s PTO shaft that slowed down when it really hasn’t.
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   / Bush hog blade stopping #66  
It has a new hydraulic filter and fluid about 5 hours ago.
I would head right back to this point and make sure nothing bad happened here, like a bad and/or blocked filter, blocked/damaged screens, blocked passages, wrong fluid (?), etc.
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #67  
They do indeed intentionally de-tune machines to hit a target HP point.

By and large, I think most of it comes from less informed customers, and competition.

Take my brand of choice for example. Current models I think are the MX5400 and MX6000.

Lets say someone is looking for a 50 HP tractor......and they are looking at a 4052r deere. Then they go into kubota and want to look at something similar. IF kubota only has the MX6000.....and the next step down is an L-series.....kubota might not get a sale.....because it only has a 60 HP tractor to offer. And the "less informed" customer is gonna look at that and say thats an unfair comparison....and he'd have to go back to deere and compare a 60HP machine which is more money. ANd its an ever ending upward spiral.

Regarding "more HP is never a bad thing".....well it depends. The nature of having two identical machines with one turned up a bit....is it drinks more fuel. Comparing the MX5400 and MX6000 tractors....if all one was doing was loader work....ground work like pulling a plow....grapple work doing firewood, etc......then why burn more fuel to get the extra 6 ponies that you aint gonna benefit from. Likewise if its predominately a mowing tractor or some other heavy PTO uses.....then sure you can benefit.

Sure it cost them the same to make. But they still make a profit. Lets say the MX6000 has a profit margin of 30%. IF thats the ONLY model then you make 30% on everyone sold. But if you can make the SAME tractor....cut profit to 20%.....but increase customers and sales its worth it.

All of this is nothing new and has been going on for better than half a century.
Wrong thread?
 
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#68  
All fluids, filters etc. were changed just last year. Not many hours ago. Fluid supplied by the New Holland dealer for the tractor. The shear pin is not broken, I took it out to check. The nut holding the bush hog blades on still has the retaining cotter key intact.
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #69  
So what are your plans fore a fix?
 
   / Bush hog blade stopping #70  
Have you checked the PTO clutch pressure yet?
All fluids, filters etc. were changed just last year. Not many hours ago. Fluid supplied by the New Holland dealer for the tractor. The shear pin is not broken, I took it out to check. The nut holding the bush hog blades on still has the retaining cotter key intact.
 

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