Buying a BX23?

   / Buying a BX23? #11  
Just bought a BX23 here in Maryland 2 weeks ago. 14,500
I bought a ZD28 from him last year so he said he was giving me a deal. MIne came with turf tires. He said if I want extra tires about $300 but try the turf first. He said he can get me some in 3 days if I want Bar tires. Will get chains to plow. Wait and see what works best. Why have 4 tires sitting around if you don't need them. I bought it from Frederick Kubota. Give them a call. Mybe a better price.
 
   / Buying a BX23? #12  
Is that $14500 figure include the MMM deck? That can be a $1500 - $1800 difference.
 
   / Buying a BX23? #13  
that might be an issue if you were running in 4wd with no slippage, as on blacktop, but for use in snow and mud, there is not enough difference in tire diameter to create bind in the drivetrain.
The front tires spin at 4+ times the rate of the rears, so they would wear faster anyway, and there goes your diameter match!!!
 
   / Buying a BX23? #14  
My machine (Case) came in with turfs. I tried it for a little over a month, and got real tired, real fast with the traction issues of the turfs while doing dirt work. So I ordered a set of bar tires, and that little tractor is like a bulldozer now compared to when it had the turfs on it.

My neighbor switched his bars out for turfs on his BX22, and with the weight of the backhoe, it has better traction with the turfs than mine did with a rear tiller on the 3ph. However, the BX22 also does slip a bit doing front loader work, so I can imagine what a little tank it must be with the bar tires.

If you are able to get the tires mounted on rims for 300, that's a pretty good deal (Kubota dealers charge $500-$600 around these parts). It's not that big a deal to swap out the wheels once in a while, but the only time you'll really want to run the turfs will be on newly seeded lawn (and when I get to that point, I'll probably just use the push mower)

One way to help yourself if using the bar tires for dirtwork and mowing, is to make sure you keep them at the max tire pressure (or even a couple of pounds lower) during mowing, and that will minimize turf damage. Don't make sharp, quick turns. Then air them up as much as 5 lbs over max stamped on the tire (many tire guys recommend this with bias plys, and you'll see why once you start using them) when doing heavier dirt work.

That price is right where prices for the BX23 were when I was looking in June, and I found that our prices out here are a bit higher than other parts of the country. I heard from guys in the Midwest that purchased for $1500-$2000 lower than the quotes I was getting. He's giving you a decent price on the tractor, but is quoting list on the mower deck. Ask him if that's the best price he's willing to offer, as you're getting other quotes. Worst case is he'll tell you that's his best price, and with that comes the quality of after-sale service you'll expect.

SeymourBota,

I had 2 Kubota dealers tell me there was no way they would install 2 bar tires with 2 turf tires on the BX's, like you can get on the B series. Apparently, that directive comes straight from Kubota. If you end up with driveline problems, and bring in your machine with the 2 different types of tires front and rear on the BX, they'll void your warranty. That's what I was told. It may be that the size of the subs makes them more sensitive to the rolling diameter differences.

The bar tires ARE a different diameter than the turfs you replaced - not a big difference, but there is one (even though the size stamped on the side is the same). You have decreased the size ratio between the fronts and rears with what you have done. Be interested to see how your driveline holds up over time, as you've done what every dealer has told me we should not do.
 
   / Buying a BX23? #15  
I just took delivery of my BX23 last thursday, the day before Hurricane Frances hit Florida. I've been very happy with the traction on the bar tires so far, although they do mark the ground pretty well when it's wet. The ground around my place is very wet right now, had 8" of standing water in a few places. On the dry dirt and grass the bar tires haven't made any really noticable marks. With the bucket full to capacity, turning the front tires at a standstill marks the dry ground, but well, it's got about 500 lbs in the bucket, so the marking seems reasonable to me in that situation.

I paid $16300 for the machine with the 50 hr filters and a 60" deck ($15k machine, $1300 deck, filters free). I also bought the Kubota insurance which I think was $470-ish, but has a $250 deductible over the three years of financing.

The BX23 has been a lifesaver so far clearing out all the damage to the yard, I really love it. Have 9.7 hours on it now.
 
   / Buying a BX23? #16  
Interesting. Two dealers in my area said it wouldn't be a problem.
I'm not running it that way very much- mostly for winter snowblower work and there is more slippage required from turning corners in 4wd than there would ever be from diameter differences.
The tractor would never show up at a dealership for service with mismatched tires!!!!
 
   / Buying a BX23? #17  
Patrick,
I have a friend who lives near Staunton, VA and he was just telling me that Staunton Tractor (Kubota dealer) beats anyones prices on Kubota's. His father-in-law owns a farm and has checked prices recently on compact tractors and has found this to be true. It might be worth a call to get a price. It's also a pretty drive from Richmond. The phone number is on their website at www.stauntontractor.com. I may even be driving in from Nashville to purchase a BX2230 from there.
Hope this helps.
 

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