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John, did you not have a BX25 that you really liked? Seems I remember your saying it was your favorite tractor of all...
The BX25D-1 should behave that same as it has the same parts... According to the parts manuals, same transmission, linkage damper, etc. If you have a problem, I suspect you might have a defective part.
I have both a BX24 (50 Series) and a BX25D (70 Series). The 25D is here at the shop, the 24 is at home. I have no problem with either of the machines. I actually prefer the sudden stop of the 24 for some of the hazardous areas at my home. I find both machines remarkably handy and easy to use. I would not want to do without either.
John will correct me if I'm wrong, but based on his earlier comments in lots of different threads, I think John's problem with the "roll-on" manifested itself when he was moving very slowly and released the pedal to stop. The tractor continued to roll slowly forward causing him to desperately try to hit the brake, which on the 25D is on the opposite side than it was on his previous tractors. Not finding the brake would have been extremely disconcerting. It was not a case of the tractor continuing forward at a break-neck speed. My 25D exhibited the same characteristic for the first few hours. A tap on the rear pedal to center the HST was all that was required to stop the machine. No brake is required, but that works too. After some few hours, the machine now stops smoothly and reliably with no tendency to creep.
The BXs are equipped with hydraulic damper that works like a cars shock absorber to slow the pedal"s return to the centered, stop position. The 50 Series that John hated so much, had a single action damper that worked only on the forward side. It stopped smoothly when the forward pedal was released but rather quickly when the reverse pedal was released (since the reverse side had no damper). The later 60 and 70 series machines incorporated a different linkage and a 2 way damper to also slow the reverse return. I suspect that this more complicated linkage creates more friction and slows the return until some break-in. At least that seems to have been the case with mine. Perhaps John's tractor has a particularly stiff damper that should be replaced or some other mechanical problem. I have no problem with ether of the machines, and actually prefer the sudden stop for some of the hazardous areas at my home.
At any rate, the machines don't go flying down hills. At worst, when you release the forward pedal, the machine slows to a very slow crawl. Braking with the HST is the same as with the brake pedal. It works on only the rear wheels if the tractor is in 2wd. It works on the front and rear wheels only when 4wd is engaged. The brakes simply stop a shaft in the transmission. Moving the HST pedal to he center position does the same. If the machine is rolling faster than you want, just tap the reverse pedal. Just be ready for the tire squeal.
I think "before the injury/death toll starts to mount" is a bit alarmist. My wife has very little tractor experience, but can handle either of the tractors with no difficulty.
The BX25D-1 should behave that same as it has the same parts... According to the parts manuals, same transmission, linkage damper, etc. If you have a problem, I suspect you might have a defective part.
I have both a BX24 (50 Series) and a BX25D (70 Series). The 25D is here at the shop, the 24 is at home. I have no problem with either of the machines. I actually prefer the sudden stop of the 24 for some of the hazardous areas at my home. I find both machines remarkably handy and easy to use. I would not want to do without either.
John will correct me if I'm wrong, but based on his earlier comments in lots of different threads, I think John's problem with the "roll-on" manifested itself when he was moving very slowly and released the pedal to stop. The tractor continued to roll slowly forward causing him to desperately try to hit the brake, which on the 25D is on the opposite side than it was on his previous tractors. Not finding the brake would have been extremely disconcerting. It was not a case of the tractor continuing forward at a break-neck speed. My 25D exhibited the same characteristic for the first few hours. A tap on the rear pedal to center the HST was all that was required to stop the machine. No brake is required, but that works too. After some few hours, the machine now stops smoothly and reliably with no tendency to creep.
The BXs are equipped with hydraulic damper that works like a cars shock absorber to slow the pedal"s return to the centered, stop position. The 50 Series that John hated so much, had a single action damper that worked only on the forward side. It stopped smoothly when the forward pedal was released but rather quickly when the reverse pedal was released (since the reverse side had no damper). The later 60 and 70 series machines incorporated a different linkage and a 2 way damper to also slow the reverse return. I suspect that this more complicated linkage creates more friction and slows the return until some break-in. At least that seems to have been the case with mine. Perhaps John's tractor has a particularly stiff damper that should be replaced or some other mechanical problem. I have no problem with ether of the machines, and actually prefer the sudden stop for some of the hazardous areas at my home.
At any rate, the machines don't go flying down hills. At worst, when you release the forward pedal, the machine slows to a very slow crawl. Braking with the HST is the same as with the brake pedal. It works on only the rear wheels if the tractor is in 2wd. It works on the front and rear wheels only when 4wd is engaged. The brakes simply stop a shaft in the transmission. Moving the HST pedal to he center position does the same. If the machine is rolling faster than you want, just tap the reverse pedal. Just be ready for the tire squeal.
I think "before the injury/death toll starts to mount" is a bit alarmist. My wife has very little tractor experience, but can handle either of the tractors with no difficulty.
