Bx1860 vx B2320 - Contrast/Compare

[bp fick]

Mowing Grass With B2320 With Rear Finishing Mower​

During periods of rainy weather, this is a weekly chore. When migrating to a B2320 from the BX1860, one concern was whether the B would mark the grass, and secondly, whether the size would be any hindrance. Today, I mowed for the first time.

Granted, the ground is relatively hard, as we've had no rain lately. The R4s on the B never left a mark anywhere. I was a bit surprised. My neighbor's B7510 absolutely is rough on grass, so I expected at least a few marks in tight turns. Nada. Nothing. Zip. I may report something different in spring, but for now? Nothing.

Perhaps the dreaded camber of the B has been changed a bit by Kubota? I do not know. Since the weight of the B isn't a significant increase, that camber is where my concern was focused. i needn't have worried.

I tried a feature not on my BX, the 960 rpm rear pto speed. This allows the tractor to turn roughly half the engine RPMs while maintaining the mower at the proper spin. I am not versed enough in all this to comment, but I invite other experienced operators to do so. All I can say is that it is nice not to have the engine screaming at 3000 rpm.

I will have to check the turning radius comparisons again, but in the real world, of my property, with my buildings, trees and obstacles, I found no difference in the maneuverability between the BX and the B2320. Let's just say I am very, very pleased.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Mowing Grass With B2320 With Rear Finishing Mower​

During periods of rainy weather, this is a weekly chore. When migrating to a B2320 from the BX1860, one concern was whether the B would mark the grass, and secondly, whether the size would be any hindrance. Today, I mowed for the first time.

Granted, the ground is relatively hard, as we've had no rain lately. The R4s on the B never left a mark anywhere. I was a bit surprised. My neighbor's B7510 absolutely is rough on grass, so I expected at least a few marks in tight turns. Nada. Nothing. Zip. I may report something different in spring, but for now? Nothing.

Perhaps the dreaded camber of the B has been changed a bit by Kubota? I do not know. Since the weight of the B isn't a significant increase, that camber is where my concern was focused. i needn't have worried.

I tried a feature not on my BX, the 960 rpm rear pto speed. This allows the tractor to turn roughly half the engine RPMs while maintaining the mower at the proper spin. I am not versed enough in all this to comment, but I invite other experienced operators to do so. All I can say is that it is nice not to have the engine screaming at 3000 rpm.

I will have to check the turning radius comparisons again, but in the real world, of my property, with my buildings, trees and obstacles, I found no difference in the maneuverability between the BX and the B2320. Let's just say I am very, very pleased.

Is that a dirt smudge on that rear tire? If your not going to take care of it and keep it clean, send it back.

 

[bp fick]

Is that a dirt smudge on that rear tire? If your not going to take care of it and keep it clean, send it back.

I didn't even hose it off before I put it away. It's all dusty, probably got a swish or two or chicken poop in the treads and even got a few dozen white pines needles likely, here and there. Tomorrow's another day.

 

[OrangeRidge]

Perhaps the dreaded I tried a feature not on my BX, the 960 rpm rear pto speed. This allows the tractor to turn roughly half the engine RPMs while maintaining the mower at the proper spin. I am not versed enough in all this to comment, but I invite other experienced operators to do so. All I can say is that it is nice not to have the engine screaming at 3000 rpm.

BP, What's the lowest revs on this engine ?
Half the operating revs is near tick-over , isn't it ?
I thought that for small engines , the 960 is to
operate light equip , like elec. gen . ?
You'll get engine damage on a litre block , running
under the load of a cutter .............. don't go there.

 

[bp fick]

As I said, I don't know all the ins and outs of how this higher speed 960 pto works. Just using the pitched sound of the mower, 960 pto spun the mower at about the right sound and the tractor was 1800-1900 rpm give or take.

I read the manual concerning it, but the details were quite sketchy.

I also searched here on TBN. Not a lot of details anywhere that i found. Perhaps a thread on that subject alone is in order.

Update:Separate Thread Started On 960 PTO Issue.

 

[TigerfaninAR]

Mowing Grass With B2320 With Rear Finishing Mower​

During periods of rainy weather, this is a weekly chore. When migrating to a B2320 from the BX1860, one concern was whether the B would mark the grass, and secondly, whether the size would be any hindrance. Today, I mowed for the first time.

Granted, the ground is relatively hard, as we've had no rain lately. The R4s on the B never left a mark anywhere. I was a bit surprised. My neighbor's B7510 absolutely is rough on grass, so I expected at least a few marks in tight turns. Nada. Nothing. Zip. I may report something different in spring, but for now? Nothing.

Perhaps the dreaded camber of the B has been changed a bit by Kubota? I do not know. Since the weight of the B isn't a significant increase, that camber is where my concern was focused. i needn't have worried.

I tried a feature not on my BX, the 960 rpm rear pto speed. This allows the tractor to turn roughly half the engine RPMs while maintaining the mower at the proper spin. I am not versed enough in all this to comment, but I invite other experienced operators to do so. All I can say is that it is nice not to have the engine screaming at 3000 rpm.

I will have to check the turning radius comparisons again, but in the real world, of my property, with my buildings, trees and obstacles, I found no difference in the maneuverability between the BX and the B2320. Let's just say I am very, very pleased.

Very anxious to hear your opinions on how the B2320 does on your grass. I asked a question in July about the B2320 and BX and Tutorbell said this

Had a B2320, purchased it for about 80% mowing duties. Started with R4 tires, they tore up the grass when turning. Traded the R4s for bar/turf tires (at a loss). They did better, but still tore the grass when turning. Cut quality was great; had a 60" deck on the B, but couldn't get past the torn up turf.

I finally gave up and traded the whole contraption for a BX2660. MUCH better mowing machine. The loader is only marginally weaker than the B2320's and the 3 point hitch actually has more lift than my B2320 with bar/turf tires did. I'd highly recommend the BX over the B. Wish I would have bought the BX to begin with.

I should also mention that my BX has the R4 tires and does not even begin to tear up the grass, even when the steering wheel is turned full lock.

When I wrote that I was a few months from starting construction on our new house. Well that few months has turned into next week and will be letting the B7300 go for a new machine; either B2320 or BX23660/2660.

 

[bp fick]

Very anxious to hear your opinions on how the B2320 does on your grass.

I am surprised. I have expected somewhat similar results to reports I have heard from others and seen from my neighbor's B7510, but nothing. No marks at all.

Again, conditions were on the firm, dry side today. I do not know what spring will bring, but based on what i saw today, I am not expecting anything horrific, I think I would have seen some sign of tearing or damage that would lead me to believe it would be worse when wetter. Again, no damage. Zero.

A variable MIGHT be that the poster you quoted had his FEL on?
That would certainly have strained the front, adding stress to the grass. Unless I missed it, he didn't say one way or the other.
My FEL is in my shop when I mow.

Another variable in that report you quoted above was that was with an MMM. That would add some weight to the front wheels.

 

[Chilly807]

Or possibly in 4wd?

Sean

 

[bp fick]

Since thousands of B 20 series tractors are built, marketed and sold by Kubota as mowing tractors, it seems a stretch to think they all tear up grass. If it were a universal problem, in most or all soil conditions, soon, no one would ever again buy a Kubota B series with MMM. I dunno.

As for mowing in 4 wheel drive, well..... if one is forced to, because of hills, for safety, then some turf damage is just going to be accepted.

 

[bp fick]

Well that few months has turned into next week and will be letting the B7300 go for a new machine; either B2320 or BX23660/2660.

Well, there is so little difference in money, and when financed, you're only talking $10 or $20 a month difference between the BX2660 and the B2320.

We're not talking a $4000 difference or something. Thus, your decision simply comes down to your tastes concerning the features and/or your need for center of gravity versus ground clearance differences.