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have you received your tractor yet ?I did talk to one of the owners of the company He said that he would charge the salesman for the labor to swap the vlave ? Is this possible I don't know how commissioned salesmen work ? I think the salesman got the idea to charge me $300 form the owner ? for the installation plus the $85. dollars for the option in the contract. Even the owner wanted to talk me out of the 4 spool valve.! Maby they don't understand give the customer what the customer wants ? The delership seems to sell a lot of tractors a lot of them set up the way the customer wants. I am a little impatient once I want the tractor and I an in a position to buy it I don't want to wait for it. Or get any crap from the salesman or the dealership just good customer service the tractor delivered the way I want it set up and a fair price.
There is another dealer that I like better, but he is 150 miles away and as of last week he had a tractor in stock. I did put donwn $1000 dollars deposit and I did sign something I am not sure if it was a contract because the salesman said the they would type up the contract when the tractor is set and ready to deliver with attachments. David. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
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I have a question on the 4 way valve. Does it make the loader any more usable or is it for other front mounted implements?
 
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Hi Gary I was told that it was for the front impliments. I was also told that it made the bucket dump faster I am not sure about the 2nd part. If you choose to get it later the valve alone would be about $500. the labor being extra to install they want to charge me $300 dollars to install the valve bacause they don't have it in stock. I hope you have had a much more plesant experience with henry that I have had with john take care I hope you enjoy your tractor when it is delivered next week /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif David
 
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Gary,

The 4-way valve is essential to use implements like a hydraulic front blade (vs. setting it manually) or a hydraulic two-stage snow blower. Those implements require it. I cannot speak to the utility of the loader with the 4-way v. 3-way. Doesn't make logical sense, but I'm still waiting for my tractor. Perhaps one of the fellows who has live experience can speak to that question.

--- Wayne
 
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My 5030 has the 4 way valve standard. It is indeed for operation of an angling plow or chute rotator on a front mounted blower but it also works with the fel. It allows you to "quick dump" the bucket. It is called a regenerative valve. With the fel, it allows the cylinders to be quickly emptied of fluid. The cab models have a really slick joystick setup that mounts right next to the seat. It's a natural position for your right hand. very convenient.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Gary,

The 4-way valve is essential to use implements like a hydraulic front blade (vs. setting it manually) or a hydraulic two-stage snow blower. Those implements require it. I cannot speak to the utility of the loader with the 4-way v. 3-way. )</font>

Correct! As far as additional functionality of 4 way vs 3 way and the loader, the 4 way allows for a "rapid dump" operation by pushing the lever to the extreme right. That is the only difference. Hardly a critical difference in my opinion. Those who will not mount the power angle front plow, utility sweeper, or the front mounted snow thrower probably shouldn't concern themselves all that much if they can't get the 4 way valve.
 
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Hey Wayne hear is the latest on my trying to buy the bx22 from my dealer. My tractor is at the dealership or at least the salesman told me the the only one on the lot is reserved for me. I asked him if I could take it home today or by Saturday?
He said no way they are short two drivers [ one is out with a broken leg ] the other one ?[ I guess quit ? ] A tractor prep person quit, and I am ten tractors down on the prep and delivery schedule??? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif What does it take to prep a bx22 the tractor is allready assembled? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I know the he is selling me about $3,000 worth of inpliments. He said they were going to try to send a trailer down for them today . Yea right. He would not give me the tractor and send the impliments at a later time !!! The other dealer in Calif that had the next best price is out of kubota tractors to sell. So the way I see it I have to wait for a popular tractor in demand from a Dealer that is having employee retention problems. And buying from a salesman that I don't care for.!!!!! I hope he can deliver in two weeks the salesman isn't making any promises !!! suck a deal. I don't know if I should sit on my hands and do nothing for a fiew weeks of call and ***** to the owner or kubota. ?? Daivd
 
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David,
I got my BX22 yesterday. Henry delivered it and spent about 3 hours showing me how to remove the backhoe and assemble the 3 Point hitch. It was so hot that he drank about a gallon of my ice water. As to the 3 way valve. I spent 3 hours moving dirt and rocks with the loader. I can't imagine wanting the bucket to drop any faster than it does. I don't think I will ever need a 4 way valve. No snowblower and I can use the box scraper easier than a blade on the front. I think it is a great toy (tool). I told my neighbor that came to drool, it was a tractor, dunebuggy or a Harley Screamin' Eagle Deuce. The Harley's are all sold and I have lots of yard to play in. I'm Happy, hope you get yours soon.
 

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Well, this should be the last post from me in this thread (unless I post actual photos of the machine when I have it.) The last three days have been fascinating, and a wild ride.

I received a call on Tuesday from the dealer in Frederick MD, who had promised to call me only if he had a machine in hand to sell me. It was rolling off the truck when he called. Could have knocked me over with a feather. Trying to buy locally, I called the dealer in Purcellville (3 miles from me) and told him my preference was still to buy from him, but I now had a bird in the hand that I had to seriously consider since availability was so uncertain.

Needless to say, the Purcellville dealer was hugely frustrated that another dealer was receiving a machine for dealer inventory when he had retail orders he couldn't fill. He called Kubota, only to learn that Rick McPeak (Regional Sales Manager) is out / unavailable this week. Maddening.

The owner of the dealer in Purcellville then got on the phone with two other dealers trying to work out a swap: other inventory for a BX for me. By close of business he was close, but no guarantee, and I gave the folk in Frederick my commitment.

Wednesday morning, the Purcellville dealer called and was very confident that he could made the swap work. Having to make a decision, I had decided to go for the sure thing rather than gamble again. He called later in the day to let me know that he had worked out a trade, made it happen, driven down personally to get the machine, and had the tractor in hand, on his lot. Amazing. I went from no BX available anywhere to two of them from which to choose. I told him I had made the commitment to the other dealer already, and wanted to honor it.

The owner of the dealership in Purcellville told me to call if anything went wrong with the transaction. I had a concern (from confusion) yesterday about the pricing for the whole machine (BX22 TLB, 60" MMM, Bar Tires, 4-position valve, hydraulic front blade, cover, chain hooks on the buckets, 2 lights on the ROPS, factory manual & illustrated parts list, filters and fluids for the 50 hour service.) Got final comparison numbers (apples to apples) from both to put my concern / confusion to bed. Dealer in Frederick was $700.00 lower. So the order stayed with him.

Moving the Kubota financing from the Virginia dealer nearest me to the one 30 miles away was a snap. The dealer in Frederick has already swapped the turfs for bar/ag tires, the 3-position valve for the 4-position I need, and are installing the lights and chain hooks today. Tractor will be delivered in Saturday morning. No need to drive up there, the paperwork will be completed when the delivery is made. All in all, should be painless.

In the end, both the dealer in Frederick and the one in Purcellville communicated the same frustration with Kubota about availability and communication. Neither could get good information, despite all of Kubota's claims to the contrary. In no case was anyone at Kubota able to be definite about shipping and delivery dates. My machine was a complete surprise to the Frederick dealer when it arrived. While I was frustrated with the inability to get a clear answer from the dealer in Purcellville early on, it turns out that only a small part of the bad communication was their responsibility. Most of it belongs clearly to Kubota. From my direct, first-hand contact with Kubota, their confusion / miscommunication became completely clear. No one I spoke with knew what would happen when, what machines were being manufactured when. And no one had the authority to make anything different happen.

I suspect that what will play out is the pipeline staying dry throughout this growing season. With dealers getting half the BX22 machines they order, I expect that they will order twice what they really need. Kubota will catch up over the winter, the backorders will get filled, and there will be a glut in the pipeline. And next Spring the BX22 won't be rare. Instead, there will be factory discounts on them. Distribution channel management 101.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice in this thread. For me, it was hugely valuable and encouraging. Look for pictures when I can post them. And I'll look forward to joining the "Kubota Owning / Operating" threads once I have enough hours in the seat to post something worth reading.

--- Wayne
 

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