BX2200 Tachometer

[LarryG]

In June I purchased a BX2200 and am happy with then tractor and performance. In the owners manual, they talk about RPM speed with different attachments. There is no tach on the BX. Does anyone know if there is a way to put one on? The dealer said that they don't have any info on a tach for the BX but I might want to try a auto parts store. They also said to listen to engine sound, if it sounds like it is lugging then I should slow down or raise the attachment depth some. So far this is my only complaint about the tractor, no leaks or any other problems yet. Any Suggestions?

 

[Bird]

Larry, I don't know anything about putting a tach on a BX, but the lack of one was one of those things I didn't particularly like with the B7100. One dealer told me he could add a tach for about $200, so I never got one (it was not a Kubota factory option).

Bird

 

[Roy]

Larry; That too was one of the first things I looked into with my BX. (You may be able to find some threads on the old discussion group last February/March time frame). Never found a Tach. Now, what I did become comfortable with is the 'sound and feel'. I know, it's tough to swallow, but over time you will get a feeling for when she wants more, or could easily do with less throttle. (As they say in Star Wars, trust in the Force.)

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Isn't the engine in the BX used in anything else? How is the tach driven on the bigger ones? I would think the block castings wouldn't be all that different and would imagine however the drive mechanism attaches would work. Most manufacturers these days try to reduce tooling on different engines. What drives the hour-meter? Maybe a teensy electric clock? My Ford runs off of the same mechanism that runs the tach, as it does not register 1 hour if you are running at less than rated rpm 2500rpm or so.

 

[MChalkley]

Since diesels don't have an electrical ignition system, the tach has to use the actual rotation of something connected to the crankshaft, either directly (like the flywheel) or indirectly (like the camshaft, or fuel pump drive). There is also a vibration sensor than can be used on diesels and is usually mounted magnetically on the block over one of the cylinders.

For engines that are installed in tractors (or other equipment or vehicles) where a tachometer may be standard or optional equipment, flywheels are often predrilled for a magnetic inductor, with a hole in the bellhousing for the sensor that runs the tach. I don't remember what runs the tach on the Kubota's, though, but I can check my shop manual if anyone needs to know.

On units with a tachometer, the tach drives the hour meter.

Mark

 

[PaulB]

del...
The motor (or is that engine, I can't remember the correct terminology) in the BX2200 is the same as in my B1700, model 905E. Mine has a tach.

 

[JimMorrissey]

Paul, I believe you're right on the terminology there. My old man corrects me when I make the mistake of calling a fuel powered engine a "motor". In his day, a motor was an electrical powerplant, not a combustion engine.

--Jim

 

[woodstock]

Thats correct, it is an electric motor and gas/diesel engiine.
An engine is a machine for converting energy into motion or mechanical work. The energy is usually supplied in the form of a chemical fuel, such as oil or gasoline, steam and the mechanical work is most commonly delivered in the form of rotary motion of a shaft.
Engines are frequently mistakenly called motors, even though the term motor is restricted to engines that transform electrical energy into mechanical energy

Winnipeg, Manitoba

2001 BX2200 All Kubota FEL, Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.

 

[Bird]

You mean I (and all the manufacturers) are using the wrong terminology when we call the air motors in air tools a motor instead of an air engine?/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

Bird

 

[glennmac]

And all these years the Motor City should have been the Engine City--and MOTOWN should have been ENTOWN.

And motorscooters don't exist

 

[woodstock]

Motor shmotor,, w're straying from the thread.
I've been researching diesel tachs and apparantly they can be activated off the alternator if it has a "W" terminal which sends a pulse to the tach, which turns it into a rpm indicator once correctly calibrated.

http://www.autometer.com/hp/2001_catalog/street/7.html
My Bozillas gets parted at our property (future retirement home site) so I can't just run out and take a look.
Anyone got a "W" terminal on their alternator?

Winnipeg, Manitoba

2001 BX2200 All Kubota FEL, Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.

 

[woodstock]

glennmac,
Blame it on the Canadians. Gotta blame someone for this mix up.

Wasn't the first mechanical transportation vehicle, not powered by man or beast, the steam Engine (rail version). then the steam automobile.
Probable this is where they started calling it a motor, motor vehicle, motor oil, etc.
Bird I think they're half right. If you count the compressor as the power source it is an engine, but by itself the tool is a motor it take the engine produced air and the air motor translate that into rotation. The compressor could be electric motor or gas engine driven.
I'm getting a HEAD ACHE.

Winnipeg, Manitoba

2001 BX2200 All Kubota FEL, Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

There are aftermarket tachometers available for diesel applications in which the installation is as simple as epoxying a tiny magnet to a harmonic balancer or in the case of the BX on the flywheel and a small trigger pickup on a bracket so it points to the magnet as it passes by. I installed several of these on early eighties diesel pickups before tachometers became standard equipment. They worked quite well and didn't require any calibration since it was reading the rotating mass directly. I'm not too sure of the manufacturer but I think Isspro had one and possibly VDO. They should be available through a truck and fleet parts supply house.

 

[Rch]

Sooo, all these years it should have been "General Engines"!


RCH

 

[woodstock]

Blame the French

In 1769 French Army officer Captain Nicolas Joseph Cugnot built what has been called the first automobile. Cugnot's three-wheeled, steam-powered vehicle carried four persons.
In 1804 American inventor Oliver Evans built a steam-powered vehicle in Chicago, Illinois.
Most famous was the Stanley Steamer, built by American twin brothers Freelan and Francis Stanley. A Stanley Steamer established a world land speed record in 1906 of 205.44 km/h (121.573 mph). Manufacturers produced about 125 models of steam-powered automobiles, including the Stanley, until 1932.
In 1860 French inventor Jean Joseph Étienne Lenoir patented a one-cylinder engine that used kerosene for fuel. Two years later, a vehicle powered by Lenoir's engine reached a top speed of about 6.4 km/h (about 4 mph). In 1864 Austrian inventor Siegfried Marcus built and drove a carriage propelled by a two-cylinder gasoline engine. American George Brayton patented an internal-combustion engine that was displayed at the 1876 Centennial Exhibition in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
In 1876 German engineer Nikolaus August Otto built a four-stroke gas engine, the most direct ancestor to today's automobile engines.
In 1893 American industrialist Henry Ford built an internal-combustion engine from plans he saw in a magazine. In 1896 he used an engine to power a vehicle mounted on bicycle wheels and steered by a tiller.

Winnipeg, Manitoba

2001 BX2200 All Kubota FEL, Tiller, box blade, blower w/elec shute, 60 mid mt deck, Ag tires.
Grey market B7000 w/Tiller (120 hrs)
1984 JD 316 after 687 hrs.

 

[JOR_EL]

Woodstock,

[[[Wasn't the first mechanical transportation vehicle, not powered by man or beast, the steam Engine (rail version). then the steam automobile.]]]

Maybe you should say "wheeled" transportation vehicle, if you're going to so rudely ignore the sailboat! /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

(or did the first Euro-Canadians "steam" over?)

Larry

 

[StoneHeartFarm]

Jor El,

Actually, all the pictures and paintings I've seen of the old time "Euro-Canadians" show them paddling canoes. I thought THAT'S how they got there. Now you tell me they came on sail boats? I figured they just had real good upper body development /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif. Maybe even invented the rubber life raft to make the paddling easier.

SHF

 

[JOR_EL]

SHF,

Have you ever paddled a rubber liferaft? /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

You'll jump back into a canoe in a HURRY! /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif (...or better yet, a kayak!)

Larry

 

[patrickg]

Oh yes they do, but they are electric.

 

[JOR_EL]

Same principle is used on bicycle speedos. As long as you know the gear-ratios between the engine and the attachment point, you're in! Most can be adjusted within a range of ratios, to give the desired readout.

Might have to do a mental .1 reduction or something, to use one of these on a diesel, ...could be cheap, though!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Larry