BX2230 vs. TZ24DA

[Bob_Skurka]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( QUESTION: What is the difference between cruise control and the throttle control stick??? Do new tractors also have DVD navigation?? )</font>

Cruise control on a tractor is just like cruise control on a car. Set your speed and push a button, the tractor will stay at that speed. As far as DVD navigation goes, there is none that I know of, but the big tractors do offer Satellite Navigation as an option.

 

[neilly2]

I'm confusing speed with engine RPMs. However, when mowing grass the throttle stick and cruise are essentially the same. (in my opinion)

GPS control on large excavating equipment---I've seen in it action on a D-6 and a road grader and its awesome. You can put the worst operator in the cab and get amazing results. I wish I had a picture for you.

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> As far as moving snow with a loader ---don't. where your loader will fill up every few feet.... back up.... turn to the side... dump.... reposition... re-fill. </font>
Wrong. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif When the bucket fills up, you keep pushing the snow just like a plow. When you get to the end of the drive, across the street, whereever, then you dump it.

 

[neilly2]

That won't work on a long driveway or in a deep or wet snow especially on slick paved driveway(chains or not), when the increasing weight of the pile in front of you bogs the tractor down. The poster of this message is getting a BX size tractor not an L size.

An angled blade throws the snow off to the side, taking weight out of the picture.

An un-angled (word?) blade will get you the same results as the loader.

Look at the math:

In a 4&#8221; snow with a 4 ft. bucket path you will get 7 c.y. of snow every 5 ft. of travel. I believe that is close to the capacity of a 4&#8217; BX type bucket. So, every additional 5 ft. you will be pushing an additional bucket load ahead of yourself. Assume on the poster&#8217;s 700 ft driveway that you start in the middle and work to both ends. Then your travel is 350&#8217;. At the end of one pass you will have 490 c.f. of snow or 18 cy. That is 70 buckets.

At 70 buckets either the tractor stops or the snow is shedding to both sides and you have to go back and get it.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

I think both MikePA and neilly2 might be right.

We all live in different parts of the country, with different types of snow (dry, wet, mush, powder, etc) and different amounts of snow from none at all to several feet a season. What works in one area might not be the most effective solution in another area.

Me, I won't give up my snow blowers. Front mount on the Cub Cadet, and a 3pt blower for the bigger machines. I considered a front mount for the New Holland, but opted for a 3pt because it is 1/2 the price of a front mount and get enough snow to justify using a blower, but not enough to justify spending nearly $3000 for a front mount unit. My 60" Canadian made Farm King unit cost me $1400 in December 03 and was well worth the price.

I think if I had a machine the size of a Sub-Cut and I had a lot of snow, I would strongly consider a front mount blower. They are easier to use than the 3pt units becuase you look in front of you instead of working in reverse. But, again, that all depends on snow load conditions where someone lives.

I used a rear blade and found my self slipping all across the driveway if I pulled it. Pushing it works pretty well, but when the snow is heavy or when there is a big storm, you may have to go out in the storm and clear the drive several times because there are practical limits to how much snow you can push, especially with a BX ot TZ class of Sub-CUT. I'm sure I could get out an antique Oliver and push a lot more snow than I could with my much lighter and smaller TC24D. The smaller the machine, the less you can push.

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> We all live in different parts of the country, </font>
neilly2 - thanks for the math /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif , but it doesn't change what works for me. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif As Bob said, what works for one person either will not work, or wont work as well for others. Not only is it a function of where someone lives, it's also a function of how long, steep and wide a driveway is, or whatever location that needs plowed. That's why (1) It's important TBNer fill in their profile and (2) The more seasoned TBNers do not make dogmatic, e.g., something will or wont work, do or do not do this, etc. Since Biggie has not filled in his profile, it's hard to make a recommendation.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

In PA we sell loaders for this all the time and hear little fuss about it not working properly. We don't get loads of snow, but a good 12-18" happens pretty often.

 

[Biggie]

Thank you all for your input, it has helped with my decision. I am going to the dealer Monday to buy the tractor. Based on your information, talking to the dealers, and my due diligence, I have chosen blue for the following reasons:

bigger alternator
bigger tractor
tach
greater rear pto capacity
true cat 1 pto
huge service dept. which serves the state
like the foot pedals

The Kubota is awesome, but I am going New Holland.

Biggie

 

[AndyM]

Congratulations on the purchase! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Looks like the New Holland TZ population here is exploding quickly! I think there are now three or four TZ members here here on TBN, all in about one week's time! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Post some pictures when it arrives!

 

[Henro]

As I read this thread over different days I kept thinking if I were to have only one tractor, and had to choose beteen the two you were looking at, I would buy the TX24DA myself...

True confessions of a BX2200 owner... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif... Kinda, but, happily, it's not my only ride...and it is the perfect sibling to my larger tractor... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think you made a great decision.