BX2360 questions

[Builder]

Well, I've been all over creation trying to decide what tractor to buy. Narrowed down to Deere X-748 with 60" 7-iron deck or Kubota BX2360 w/ 60" deck. For simplicity's sake, let's say they are within $500 of each other on the best prices I can get from dealer. I will be using it to cut my personal 3 acre lawn and a couple customers lawns & small fields. Might get a snowblade/blower tiller, small bush hog in future.

I realize they are 2 different tractors, but either would work for me.

Like about the Deere: HDAP tires, compact size, lighter weight, warranty (4yr -700 hours)
Dislike Deere: No ROPS, weaker 3pt lift arms, no attractive financing (4.9% for 48 months)

Like Kubota: ROPS, sturdier heavier frame tractor, better 3pt hitch, better financing (0% for 60 months)

Dislike Kubota: Might be too big for fine lawns, no HDAP tires. Lesser warranty. Grass bagger system is real expensive ($2,400)

The Kubota will cost me less hands down per month to own and that right now weighs heavily in Kubota's favor.

Questions on the BX2360:

Will it cut a lawn and not leave a lot of marks on finish quality lawn grass? (my gut feeling is it will be on the heavy side)
Does the deck have a nice cut? (I have read some owners are not so satisfied with the cut on Kubota mower decks)
Is the deck built thick enough to cut the rough stuff, like 18" tall field grass once in a while?

What do you dislike (if anything) about your BX2360?

Thanks.

 

[leonz]

one kubota 2 kubota .......

Well, I've been all over creation trying to decide what tractor to buy. Narrowed down to Deere X-748 with 60" 7-iron deck or Kubota BX2360 w/ 60" deck. For simplicity's sake, let's say they are within $500 of each other on the best prices I can get from dealer. I will be using it to cut my personal 3 acre lawn and a couple customers lawns & small fields. Might get a snowblade/blower tiller, small bush hog in future.

I realize they are 2 different tractors, but either would work for me.

Like about the Deere: HDAP tires, compact size, lighter weight, warranty (4yr -700 hours)
Dislike Deere: No ROPS, weaker 3pt lift arms, no attractive financing (4.9% for 48 months)

Like Kubota: ROPS, sturdier heavier frame tractor, better 3pt hitch, better financing (0% for 60 months)

Dislike Kubota: Might be too big for fine lawns, no HDAP tires. Lesser warranty. Grass bagger system is real expensive ($2,400)

The Kubota will cost me less hands down per month to own and that right now weighs heavily in Kubota's favor.

Questions on the BX2360:

Will it cut a lawn and not leave a lot of marks on finish quality lawn grass? (my gut feeling is it will be on the heavy side)
Does the deck have a nice cut? (I have read some owners are not so satisfied with the cut on Kubota mower decks)
Is the deck built thick enough to cut the rough stuff, like 18" tall field grass once in a while?

What do you dislike (if anything) about your BX2360?

Thanks.

Nothing wrong with turf tires period -just depend on which type -the diamond or square pad turfs are thee best for distributing machine wieght where the tiny tread turfs are good for soft treads and possibly less damage to turf-totally dependent upon turf thickness and grass stand -wet or not any tire will damage turf if its soggy enough.

any sub c.u.t with loaded tires will do damage to wet, soggy, or slippery turf!!!!


The tractor size is not an issue with fine lawns the mower type is!


A suspended deck or a ground contact deck will be totally dependent on the turf and the ground as it will follow the ground contours and may be givng an uneven cut and if the anti scalp wheels are worn on the supended deck it will dig in more which is true of the ground contact deck when turning on hills and banks, and the mowers discharge corner will bite in to the turf.


The suspended deck and ground contact deck will have wear in the suspensions of either mower and any racking and twisting will add to the wear. any belly mower will skip and leave rooster tails of greass if its too tall ot be cut at the first pass not much of an issue with flail mowers inless golden rod is thick (two passes and its gone)


The ground contact deck will need the guage wheels checked often to be be sure of less scalping if you have a bad wheel in front.


Plus it will require maintenance(deck scraping and consume more fuel),

and its not an issue with a three point flail mower as the rear roller is the mower hieght gauge and never varies(unless you adjust the roller).


My dads neighbor loves her 2350 which is the old model but she has a bush hog for it UGH!!! and keeps an old wheel horse for mowing.

save your money and buy a 48" Caroni with an F rotor and you can eliminate the need for a brush hog period and any worries about 18 inch brush and you can buy a hydraulic offset hitch for it to mow everywhere quickly.

And you could buy a cylone rake too and a MTD cub cadet (Big box store sale item)


to just suck up the clippings and be done with them after using the flail mower and never have to worry about a rear bagger for the kubota for much less money involved and the cylone rakes are on sale again this fall if you want a bagger but with a flail mower the clippings will be so fine they will dissapper in a few days if mowed only once or if mowed over a second time they will be nearly invisible.



The cyclone rake is shorter in height than the trac vac or others and is connected directly to the tractors rear hitch weldment
The suction fan rides directly with the mounting on the rear of the tractor frame.
and the rear caster wheels allow it to follow directly behind the tractor because it is physically attached to to it and does not turn in an arc like a trailer
the cyclone rake bagger unit folds up and you can hang it on the wall of your garage and roll the power unit under it as it has its own casters and base which is the direct mount to the tractors rear hitch frame.

 

[montelatici]

Well, I've been all over creation trying to decide what tractor to buy. Narrowed down to Deere X-748 with 60" 7-iron deck or Kubota BX2360 w/ 60" deck. For simplicity's sake, let's say they are within $500 of each other on the best prices I can get from dealer. I will be using it to cut my personal 3 acre lawn and a couple customers lawns & small fields. Might get a snowblade/blower tiller, small bush hog in future.

I realize they are 2 different tractors, but either would work for me.

Like about the Deere: HDAP tires, compact size, lighter weight, warranty (4yr -700 hours)
Dislike Deere: No ROPS, weaker 3pt lift arms, no attractive financing (4.9% for 48 months)

Like Kubota: ROPS, sturdier heavier frame tractor, better 3pt hitch, better financing (0% for 60 months)

Dislike Kubota: Might be too big for fine lawns, no HDAP tires. Lesser warranty. Grass bagger system is real expensive ($2,400)

The Kubota will cost me less hands down per month to own and that right now weighs heavily in Kubota's favor.

Questions on the BX2360:

Will it cut a lawn and not leave a lot of marks on finish quality lawn grass? (my gut feeling is it will be on the heavy side)
Does the deck have a nice cut? (I have read some owners are not so satisfied with the cut on Kubota mower decks)
Is the deck built thick enough to cut the rough stuff, like 18" tall field grass once in a while?

What do you dislike (if anything) about your BX2360?

Thanks.

The Deere is a big riding mower, the BX is a small tractor. My BX1850 does my lawn quite well. There really isn't much of a comparison. The JD is made by Yanmar and has a Yanmar engine. The Kubota is made by Kubota and has a Kubota diesel engine. Check out who uses Kubota engines and who uses Yanmar engines.

 

[check 6]

Several years ago I had a Kubota 2200 with a 60 in belly mower and liked the cut very much. I traded it for a Kubota zero turn diesel mower to get into tight places with a 54 in deck . Deck on all Kubotas very strong. That said I missed not having a small tractor so last week I bought a 2360 with front loader and box blade (debated between that and a 1860 configured the same) glad I bought the 2360. Lots of power, easy to drive and good turn radius. I would expect a belly or rear mower on a 2360 will give you a good cut on your lawn and have enough power to tackle the heavy stuff.

By the way I was moving dirt on my lawn yesterday to fill some low spots and no marks were left by the 2360 on grass that had seen 4 inches of rain within the last week. Happy purchase

 

[Builder]

I want to add some more usefull backround info:

I will not use either tractor for dirt work. Neither will be loader equipped (the bota will be prepped with a loader valve). I have an M-7040 with an FEL, flail mower, etc. and a huge NH backhoe to do all the big work.
This purchase is 90% for extended mowing. remaining 10% might be snow, maybe a rototiller or some 3 point material spreading.

 

[medicshawn]

For baggers also check out the trac vac 662 or 854-Bx. Or a tow behind trac vac.

 

[D902 BX PILOT]

i own a bx2360 w/54" deep fine cut deck. i'm amazed at the quality of the cut. also have the fel and hd front dozer blade for dirt and snow (w/squeege edge)
the bx is a little beast . . . all be it - a light weight beast @1,500 lbs plus you, mower deck or front end loader.
there will be a greater market resale wise for a bx than a deere on steriods

good luck, hopefully nobody's offended D902 BX PILOT

 

[Builder]

Do you cut your lawn, I mean like your front lawn (not like a field or rough lawn) with it?

Concerned it will be too heavy and rip-up pretty lawn areas.

 

[bp fick]

Builder, I mow my yard with a BX. I have R4s and it is harmless. We have extremely loose soil and nothing. No damage whatsoever. This isn't scientific, but just through experience and that of 100's of guys here, but the BX has a certain camber that will not hurt the grass. The weight of the tractor is only 1600 lbs, loaded up, and that weight is widely dispersed into those super wide tires. It likely puts less pressure per inch than a big box lawn mower.

My neighbor has a large B Kubota that I borrowed once to move some dirt. (this was before I got my own FEL). The camber on the B is different. That's all I can say. It marked my grass with turfs. Not severe, but noticeable.

The BX was somehow designed/engineered to be grass friendly. I am sure dozens of guys here will tell you that.

I use an Italian made RFM. The cut is awesome. My neighbors rave. Frankly, I don't know about raves, but it does a fine job. I would expect a BX MMM to cut a lawn as good or better than 99% of the riding mowers out there. That was/is its primary designed task by Kubota, imo. The fact that it is a bona fide, tough bugger, tractor is just a bonus.

 

[Builder]

Thanks guys. Anything you dislike ?

 

[leonz]

fuel system


Yyou should install a Racor centrifuge fuel filter with
an automatic themostat after you get it home-

the Racor eleven hundred centrifuge model will spin the dirt and water out
of the fuel system with only the fuel pump of the tractor pulling the fuel.

The manual drain allows you to drain the dirt and water every day as you can see how much water and dirt you get out of the fuel.

And with the minus five micron filter you would have a filter that wil last for years before replacement and you may never have to change the fue filters in the tractor.


AND all there is to changing the filter is unscrewing the filter lid, remove the filter lid O-ring from the stem, and replace with the new one in the box.

(drain fuel back into chamber before removing it completely).

The internal check valves prevent air from getting into the fuel lines after the filter and centrifuge bowl.

 

[bxkubota]

I started a thread very similar to your situation at the beginning of the mowing season. My father in law was torn between the X748 Deere and a BX2660. In the end he purchased the BX with a standard cut 60" deck and bagger system. He cuts the grass to putting green height every week and the yard looks phenomenal. He is very happy he bought the BX over the Deere X and his use is 100% mowing as he did not get the loader valve.

 

[Builder]

I started a thread very similar to your situation at the beginning of the mowing season. My father in law was torn between the X748 Deere and a BX2660. In the end he purchased the BX with a standard cut 60" deck and bagger system. He cuts the grass to putting green height every week and the yard looks phenomenal. He is very happy he bought the BX over the Deere X and his use is 100% mowing as he did not get the loader valve.

Dang now that's valuable info. Thanks! :thumbsup:

 

[Builder]

fuel system


Yyou should install a Racor centrifuge fuel filter with
an automatic themostat after you get it home-

the Racor eleven hundred centrifuge model will spin the dirt and water out
of the fuel system with only the fuel pump of the tractor pulling the fuel.

The manual drain allows you to drain the dirt and water every day as you can see how much water and dirt you get out of the fuel.

And with the minus five micron filter you would have a filter that wil last for years before replacement and you may never have to change the fue filters in the tractor.


AND all there is to changing the filter is unscrewing the filter lid, remove the filter lid O-ring from the stem, and replace with the new one in the box.

(drain fuel back into chamber before removing it completely).

The internal check valves prevent air from getting into the fuel lines after the filter and centrifuge bowl.

Thanks, leonz

 

[amigauser]

I have the BX1860 that I use to maintain my 1.5 acre lawn. My property tends to be wet as there is swamp behind me and the water table is high. I have not noticed any lawn marking issues with the BX and turf tires. It cuts the lawn as good or better than my previous Deere rider. Much more pleasant to mow with to without the stuipid ROI that deere and other "lawn tractors" have when you want to mow in reverse. The Kubota BX being a "real" tractor does not have it so you can mow forward and reverse with no issues.

I have a Grand L3240 for heavier work but I still purchased the BX with the loader as it will help in trade in / resale value down the road. It helps with front ballast to if you are working a heavy rear implement. I just hooked up a landscape rake to my BX for the first time this past weekend and the steering was very light with the rake raised and no front loader present.

 

[LBrown59]

Thanks guys.

Of the 3 tractors you have inquired about .
The BX2360 gets my vote over the 2305 and the x748.

 

[bp fick]

Dislike? Yeah, sure.

The "chains" are a PITA. Truly.
The engine is designed to really wind up. I know they designed it to run at 3000 rpm and more, but really......

Super easy starter. Even at 0 degrees. Flash the glows for two or three series of 6 count and bang, you're off. Hammers like a son of a gun.

HST whines like spoiled brat who didn't get a nap.

Keep the radiator screen clean. Reverse flow might be nice for ergonomics but it will suck a lot of dust and such. SOP

Dang comfortable seat. Can mow for an hour or two, even with my horrid back. No discomfort.

Sips fuel like a lady nursing a drink at a nightclub.

Hate the tach. Really almost useless. grey digital thingie. How about a freaking analog dial, Kubota?

OK, that's enough. Love it? Absolutely!!! Blinded so as not to see its faults? nope. Buy and recommend Orange again? In a heartbeat.

 

[Builder]

UGH! So it's a loud tractor AND a whiney HST?

I'm >40 so I'm starting to actually DISlike loud things. (I used to think loud was cool) :laughing:

Great to hear it has a comfy seat......I hate uncomfortable when you're doing something you like...

 

[bp fick]

UGH! So it's a loud tractor AND a whiney HST?

I'm >40 so I'm starting to actually DISlike loud things. (I used to think loud was cool) :laughing:

Great to hear it has a comfy seat......I hate uncomfortable when you're doing something you like...

Huh! >50. One word. Earplugs.

 

[Builder]

Uh oh. Now I'm worried....it's a noisy bugger.

I'm going to dealer tomorrow/tues to have a little test run, so I guess I'll see just how loud they are.

Can't be worse than my 4800 under hard acceleration with the windows down...:laughing: