BX2380 tipping concerns

   / BX2380 tipping concerns #11  
My BX2360's LA243 loader manual recommends 420lbs maximum on the back when using the loader. I found it makes a big difference. With no implement on the back, and something in the loader, it feels like a gust of wind will blow it over. Even a 250lb implement really helps.

Bruce
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns #12  
Andrew....load up that rear ballast box with some weight. Your front axle does nothing to keep you from tipping because it pivots at one point in the center. Your rear axle doesn't pivot so that is the one that keeps you stable but it needs weight to plant it to the ground. Are your rear tires fluid filled? If not, start with 300+ lbs in the box and work up from there.

Certainly agree with filling your rear tires with ballast. I have rim guard (beet juice) in mine. Dealership I bought mine off of doesn’t sell a loader on a tractor without some type of ballast in the tires...

Adding ballast to your box, filling your rear tires with ballast and 2” spacers will make a very large difference in handling...

As far as “suspension”...these tractors don’t have a suspension system...the only “suspension” is the springs on your seat...
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns #13  
Had a 2370 for several years - loaded rears - it wasn't to difficult get it to feel tipsy - but for it's size it was nice unit - I always kept the bucket down as low as possible - watched the banks and how I approched - at 265 I would shift my weight on the high side a few times cutting the grass to keep it stable on the banks - but it never failed me and never tipped over - It moved tons of top soil, loaded my pick up with yard waste many times - kept the lawn in order - did it's job - but I learned it's limitations and did not push beyond them - but like others have suggested I would defiantly load the rears - makes a world of difference.....
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns #14  
Rear wheel ballast and rear wheel extensions made a huge difference on stability. Always have 3pt weight for loader work.
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns #16  
Doesn't matter if it's a BX or another tractor. If you have a front loader installed you should have fluid in your rear tires. If you are carrying a load in the bucket then you should have additional ballast on the 3-pt hitch.

The setup you have now with no tire ballast and no rear ballast is asking for all kinds of trouble.
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns
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#17  
After reading all this I'm shocked I haven't tipped it thus far! I didn't even get a casual warning I should have ballast in the back if I use the loader from the dealer when I bought it.

I didn't have the loader on much during the summer, I mainly used for mowing. I have the 60" deck and I thought it felt pretty safe. I was whipping around pretty good in fact.
Is it mainly with the loader that you definitely need the ballast?
As I said I have a bunch of sandbags but if that doesn't get me to 300lbs I have tons of bricks on the property to fill the box.

I've never heard of tire ballast. Is it a liquid you leave in year round?

Andrew
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns #18  
Another reason you need sufficient ballast is your steering cylinder gets overworked from excess weight on the front axle and prematurely fails. Ask me how I know that. I came extremely close to tipping my bx and would have if a heavyweight friend saw the disaster in progress and jumped on the back fender as the rear wheel started coming up.
 
   / BX2380 tipping concerns #19  
Andrew,

To me it sounds like your tippy feeling is very different than my experience. Yes, I have my rear tires filled with fluid. You can youtube it and do it yourself or have your dealer do it which is what I've always asked for at time of purchase. It makes a huge difference even when mowing side-hills. And also, I did recently have my tires air pressure down in the rear (due to the colder whether) and that also made a huge difference. I use a box blade on the back when doing any loader work and you'll be amazed with loaded tires and rear ballast how much more work your loader will do and how much more stable it is.

That said, I'd never raise the loader much on side hills and travel with it as low as possible, but I do a lot of loader work and if on fairly flat ground, I've never had an issue running around quickly with loads. If on a hill, yes, I take it very slow and always have my hand on the joystick ready to drop the bucket to the ground to prevent roll over.

This is my 3rd tractor and the BX's feel much more stable to me than the L's. When mowing, I side hill stuff I never would have considered with my old JD lawn tractor. I just slow down some where appropriate. You'll get the feel of it, but I definitely would get your rear wheels filled asap.
 
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#20  
Hi David,

I did check my tire pressure a week on the weekend but the temperature here dropped considerably since then so that's on my list today.
The manual says 14 psi for rear turf tires (the ones I have) but I believe my pressure on the tires themselves are 22 in the front and 20 in the back.
14 seems odd. I may be reading the manual wrong but I always default to what the actual tire says.

Andrew
 

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