BX24 Brakes

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#11  
Volfandt said:
Probably a 4100 which is comparable to the B7610.
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That sounds right.

The BX doesn't lose anythig on it engine wise as his jd bogged easier climbing the grade in hi range. Neither really should use hi on that grade, but the bx had a little more stuff even with the bh and fel. Brakes well that another story.

His has over 1000 hrs now. Pops out of 4wd sometimes which causes a loss in traction and slight sharpening of the attention factor.
 
   / BX24 Brakes #12  
Actually the brakes on my BX23 are quite good.
I adjusted them by following the service manual instructions.

The factory setting was ............. dangerous.....
 
   / BX24 Brakes #14  
ad4pl said:
i was told by the dealer when i bough my bx24, that the brakes work through the gear, and when you change from hi-low, or low-hi,you are disengaging the gears so out of gear, theres no brakes.

The BX24 has a wet disc type brake, independently operated by the brake pedal. The hi-lo range selector uses gears to make the two different ratios for hi and lo. In neutral, the gears are disengaged and that's where we can get into trouble. So long as the HST is "in gear," we have control of ground speed via the speed control pedal and throttle. In neutral, the engine/transmission is disconnected from the drive wheels, rendering the speed control and throttle useless. All we have left in neutral is the brake. Depending on grade, implements, and load, the brake can be quickly overpowered by the sheer weight of the tractor and gravity.

I'm guessing the dealer meant that, out of gear, there's no "engine braking" so-to-speak. Either that, or he doesn't understand how his product works.:eek:
 
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BotaBigot said:
I'm guessing the dealer meant that, out of gear, there's no "engine braking" so-to-speak. Either that, or he doesn't understand how his product works.:eek:


+1 for lack of dealer product knowledge. Of course your results may vary.
 
   / BX24 Brakes #16  
ad4pl said:
i was told by the dealer when i bough my bx24, that the brakes work through the gear, and when you change from hi-low, or low-hi,you are disengaging the gears so out of gear, theres no brakes.

How true. I found this out the hard way when the previous owner delivered my BX23 on a roll-on tow truck. They asked if I wanted to back it off the sloped ramp. Since it was in gear when it was placed on the truck, the key wouldn't start it. As I'm in the seat, asking what's wrong, the owner throws the hi-lo lever in neutral, which immediately sends me rocketing down the ramp, heading for my boat. She's yelling "brake! brake!" Did I mention I hadn't read the owner's manual yet?? Anyway, I find the brake in the nick of time...

I think the tow truck driver peed his pants from laughing so hard. I think I peed mine for a different reason.

Pat
 
   / BX24 Brakes #17  
Riptide23 said:
How true. I found this out the hard way when the previous owner delivered my BX23 on a roll-on tow truck. They asked if I wanted to back it off the sloped ramp. Since it was in gear when it was placed on the truck, the key wouldn't start it. As I'm in the seat, asking what's wrong, the owner throws the hi-lo lever in neutral, which immediately sends me rocketing down the ramp, heading for my boat. She's yelling "brake! brake!" Did I mention I hadn't read the owner's manual yet?? Anyway, I find the brake in the nick of time...

I think the tow truck driver peed his pants from laughing so hard. I think I peed mine for a different reason.

Pat

Sorry Pat, but I'm "LOL'ing." :eek: Since it all turned out alright, it's okay to laugh, right?
 
   / BX24 Brakes #18  
Boy, I must be both lucky and stupid, but...

I've freewheeled my BX-24 down our (dirt) road many times to the neighbors' house - put it in neutral and let it coast (it's quicker than high range but I don't let it get really going, probably doing 10-12MPH at best, my guess). Also quieter at idle :). And my brakes? Superb. No complaints whatsoever. I had certainly battle-tested them way before I tried this, so I knew what I had, so to speak. But I've never had a brake problem, ever - at 200+ hours.

- Stuart
 
   / BX24 Brakes #19  
I use my brakes intentionally as a reminder that they exist after being scolded by a TBN'er that the HST, while usually effective, can't be relied on in all circumstances. (Never use them, and you won't be trained to find them while in panic mode.) Saved my bacon when I bumped the high/low range lever into neutral once. If your brakes don't work, you should fix them. I can lock up my BX2350's tires with little pressure.
 

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